mafya Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 5 hours ago, trastrick said: This latest ceasefire "agreement" gives a war weary world some "hope" for peace but unfortunately legitimizes a practice once confined only to lawless, non democratic banana republics run by terrorists, cartels and assorted war lords. Namely kidnapping for ransom. I this case kidnapping non combatant women, children, and even babies. Rewarding terrorism will never solve the problem. Ransom kidnappings thrive in South Africa as crime soars Al Jazeera https://www.aljazeera.com › features › traumatic-trend... Aug 16, 2023 — This increase in kidnappings, experts say, has been largely driven by a surge in transnational organised crime syndicates operating in the ... Kidnappings of children and women spiking at alarming ... UNICEF https://www.unicef.org › press-releases › kidnappings-... The growing trend in kidnappings and abductions is extremely worrisome, threatening ... The increase in violence, looting, road blockades, and the pervasive ... Kidnappings of women, children surge in Haiti | Child ... Al Jazeera https://www.aljazeera.com › news › extremely-worriso... Aug 7, 2023 — Kidnappings of women and children are surging in Haiti as gang violence worsens, with the number of abductions in the first half of 2023 ... What’s your take on the Palestinians-just dragged off the street and held without charges for years that happens regularly in the country? I watched a programme where an expert said that one of the reasons hostages are taken is so that they can be used as a bargaining chip to get these prisoners released. Do you think just dragging people including women and children off the street to be held without charge for years by the Israelis is acceptable and not a form of terrorism? https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/22/23972908/palestinian-prisoners-israel-administrative-detention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, mafya said: What’s your take on the Palestinians-just dragged off the street and held without charges for years that happens regularly in the country? I watched a programme where an expert said that one of the reasons hostages are taken is so that they can be used as a bargaining chip to get these prisoners released. Do you think just dragging people including women and children off the street to be held without charge for years by the Israelis is acceptable and not a form of terrorism? https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/22/23972908/palestinian-prisoners-israel-administrative-detention War is hell for everybody, including Palestinians. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) He has a point... https://www.facebook.com/reel/1222969301952736 https://www.facebook.com/reel/887917089596198 Edited November 23, 2023 by The_DADDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 9 hours ago, trastrick said: War is hell for everybody, including Palestinians. Do you see October the 7th as part of the decades long war between Israeli occupation and the oppressed people of Palestine or do you see October the 7th as the start of the war with Israeli occoupiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 I learned today that when Palestinians prisoners die in jail the Israelis keep hold of their bodies and their families can’t bury their loved ones= https://www.addameer.org/news/5115 Sorry but I’m now starting to realise why Israel is hated and I wonder how many posters on here knew of this? Israeli terrorist state goes around doing what it wants with impunity and then it wonders why they are despised, people need to wake up to what the Israeli state really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, mafya said: I learned today that when Palestinians prisoners die in jail the Israelis keep hold of their bodies and their families can’t bury their loved ones= https://www.addameer.org/news/5115 Sorry but I’m now starting to realise why Israel is hated and I wonder how many posters on here knew of this? Israeli terrorist state goes around doing what it wants with impunity and then it wonders why they are despised, people need to wake up to what the Israeli state really is. Ever heard of the Aftonbladet–Israel controversy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 4 hours ago, mafya said: Do you see October the 7th as part of the decades long war between Israeli occupation and the oppressed people of Palestine or do you see October the 7th as the start of the war with Israeli occoupiers? I see this current conflict as part of the endless religious wars that have plagued the Middle East for thousands of years. This latest flare up is a relatively minor event, in the greater context of the horrendous death toll that these wars have cost. It's not Israel that is killing all these Muslims. Casualties of the Syrian civil war Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Casualties_of_the_Sy... Estimates of the total number of deaths in the Syrian Civil War, by opposition activist groups, vary between 703,064 and about 913,407 as of March 2023. Yemen war deaths will reach 377,000 by end of the year: UN Al Jazeera https://www.aljazeera.com › news › 2021/11/23 › un-... Nov 23, 2021 — A new United Nations report has projected that the death toll from Yemen's war will reach 377,000 by the end of 2021, including those killed ... About 243,000 people have been killed in the Afghanistan/Pakistan warzone since 2001. More than 70,000 of those killed have been civilians. Afghan Civilians | Costs of War And there's more, but the list (31) is too long to post here. Post-9/11 wars have contributed to some 4.5 million deaths ... Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com › world › 2023/05/15 May 15, 2023 — The accounting, so far as it can be measured, puts the toll at 4.5 million to 4.6 million — a figure that continues to mount as the effects of ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, mafya said: I learned today that when Palestinians prisoners die in jail the Israelis keep hold of their bodies and their families can’t bury their loved ones= https://www.addameer.org/news/5115 Sorry but I’m now starting to realise why Israel is hated and I wonder how many posters on here knew of this? Israeli terrorist state goes around doing what it wants with impunity and then it wonders why they are despised, people need to wake up to what the Israeli state really is. Addameer.....Is that a Palestinian organization? Are you not the poster who suggested folk broaden their views by stepping outside their media circle? Not biased at all then? Could they squeeze in the word martyrs anymore, and why are these martyrs in prison? Maybe the Israelis want to keep the bodies because they know at some point they will need a bargaining tool when trying to negotiate with the parasites who want to wipe them off the face of the Earth? 9 hours ago, The_DADDY said: He has a point... https://www.facebook.com/reel/1222969301952736 https://www.facebook.com/reel/887917089596198 Oh crikey, it's going to be painful for the left to actually praise Andrew Tate!! Edited November 24, 2023 by Al Bundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Al Bundy said: Addameer.....Is that a Palestinian organization? Not biased at all then? Could they squeeze in the word martyrs anymore, and why are these martyrs in prison? Maybe the Israelis want to keep the bodies because they know at some point they will need a bargaining tool when trying to negotiate with the parasites who want to wipe them off the face of the Earth? Oh crikey, it's going to be painful for the left to actually praise Andrew Tate!! Muslims hate tha Jews....lets just be honest They have tried to wipe them out again and again and again The middle east is huge but they don't want what they have .....they want that tiny piece of land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Jack Grey said: Muslims hate tha Jews....lets just be honest They have tried to wipe them out again and again and again The middle east is huge but they don't want what they have .....they want that tiny piece of land The Jews hate the Muslims too but maybe that doesn't count. The land was shared in 1948, but the Israeli's want their share and most of the other share too. The facts ruin your protestations and the whole world is realising it. Pity you don't. Nowhere in the world do they start sharing land out because "it's huge". Silly boy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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