trastrick Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Organgrinder said: You've got that exactly right and I have believed from the start that it was a manufactured war to allow Netanyahu to flatten Gaza and get rid of a lot of Palestinians. Hamas Head of International Relations, Basem agrees with your conspiracy theories! And you know this how? These endless wars continue because of terrorist propaganda dupes and spreaders. Like YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, trastrick said: Hamas Head of International Relations, Basem agrees with your conspiracy theories! And you know this how? These endless wars continue because of terrorist propaganda dupes and spreaders. Like YOU! But what about the Israelis who already saw their current leader as an undemocratic leader who had no intention of trying to achieve any peace settlement. And how about the continuing illegal border creep by “Settlers” in the Western Bank. How do YOU justify that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, trastrick said: Hamas Head of International Relations, Basem agrees with your conspiracy theories! And you know this how? These endless wars continue because of terrorist propaganda dupes and spreaders. Like YOU! This clip has nothing whatsoever to do with my thoughts that the Zionist factions have used the opportunity to pursue their goal of subjugating Palestinians. There is no doubt in my mind that Hamas terrorists committed the atrocities,but how did the crack IDF and Mossad fail their citizens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findlay Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Anything muslim is unbelievable even in Sheffield. Sheffield muslim councillors: unbelievable Sheffield muslim police: unbelievable Sheffield muslim judges: unbelievable So why would anyone believe any other muslim, or even engage in dialogue with them, they are unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Findlay said: Anything muslim is unbelievable even in Sheffield. Sheffield muslim councillors: unbelievable Sheffield muslim police: unbelievable Sheffield muslim judges: unbelievable So why would anyone believe any other muslim, or even engage in dialogue with them, they are unbelievable. If you left “Muslim” out of each statement then you would still get some degree of approval from others on here. Edited December 7, 2023 by RJRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Two "whataboutisms" in one post? 🙂 2 hours ago, RJRB said: But what about the Israelis who already saw their current leader as an undemocratic leader who had no intention of trying to achieve any peace settlement. Domestic Leftist losing opportunistic opposition politicians who hate their elected rivals. Business as usual in a Democracy! 2 hours ago, RJRB said: And how about the continuing illegal border creep by “Settlers” in the Western Bank. How do YOU justify that? They have their reasons, among them their issues of national security, to prevent the Palestinians and their elected and supported terrorist regime from using those areas to launch terrorist attacks against them.? Same as NATO "creep" into Russian speaking areas of Ukraine?. But that's just a guess! If this is ever sorted out out, there will have to be concessions on those issues on both sides. But first if there's to be peace, the terrorists have to recognize that Israel aren't going anywhere, and will not be "Destroyed" by military force. That's a suicide mission that will add more Muslim bodies to the millions of Muslim bodies that are being killed around the world as we speak, by Radical Islamic Terrorists. It's a term that the International Left, including you and Orgy refuse to use! To solve any problem, you first have to recognize it and NAME it. Like Churchill did with the NAZIS in Europe, and Reagan did with the EVIL EMPIRE Communists, before the Cold War ended, and the WALL came down! This world was a different place from 2016 to 2020. Who knows? maybe it can be again in 2024, with better leadership. (Unless the current mob take their supporters and everybody else with them to the hell of a WW 111) Edited December 7, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Trastrick's blaming propaganda now ( for a 75 year old war ), in another attempt to silence the truth. Those endless wars continue simply because the causes of the wars are still there. Nobody ever caused a war throughout history by discussing it. Hamas needs eradicating, but more "Radical Islamist terrorists" will spring up in their place until Israel ends it's occupation. Only Only Israel can end the war, but not by killing - by observing International Law. Edited December 7, 2023 by Organgrinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Organgrinder said: Trastrick's blaming propaganda now ( for a 75 year old war ), in another attempt to silence the truth. Those endless wars continue simply because the causes of the wars are still there. Nobody ever caused a war throughout history by discussing it. Hamas needs eradicating, but more terrorists will spring up in their place until Israel ends it's occupation. Only Only Israel can end the war, but not by killing - by observing International Law. Radical Islamic Terrorists do not recognize any of your fancy Western Democracy laws. The only law they accept is Allah's WILL and how any of the 30 or so different sects currently in power, decide to interpret it. 🙂 They'd probably stone you to death for espousing such, if you dared live among them.🙂 Edited December 7, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, trastrick said: Two "whataboutisms" in one post? 🙂 Domestic Leftist losing opportunistic opposition politicians who hate their elected rivals. Business as usual in a Democracy! They have their reasons, among them their issues of national security, to prevent the Palestinians and their elected and supported terrorist regime from using those areas to launch terrorist attacks against them.? Same as NATO "creep" into Russian speaking areas of Ukraine?. But that's just a guess! If this is ever sorted out out, there will have to be concessions on those issues on both sides. But first if there's to be peace, the terrorists have to recognize that Israel aren't going anywhere, and will not be "Destroyed" by military force. That's a suicide mission that will add more Muslim bodies to the millions of Muslim bodies that are being killed around the world as we speak, by Radical Islamic Terrorists. It's a term that the International Left, including you and Orgy refuse to use! To solve any problem, you first have to recognize it and NAME it. Like Churchill did with the NAZIS in Europe, and Reagan did with the EVIL EMPIRE Communists, before the Cold War ended, and the WALL came down! Quite happy to use Radical Islamic Terrorists as a term for Radical Islamic Terrorists. You can add Hamas if you like. I agree that there will have to be concessions but I see none from Hamas or the current Israel hawks. As for the bold paragraph. The logical conclusion is that as long as there is a strip of Palestinian land then the “Settlers” will continue to advance until there is no border any longer. Israel national security is both essential and understandable but should always have been confined to their own borders,something that they have long ignored in the face of International criticism and condemnation. Calling a spade a spade Israel have invaded Palestine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, trastrick said: Two "whataboutisms" in one post? 🙂 That's a suicide mission that will add more Muslim bodies to the millions of Muslim bodies that are being killed around the world as we speak, by Radical Islamic Terrorists. It's a term that the International Left, including you and Orgy refuse to use! To solve any problem, you first have to recognize it and NAME it. Like Churchill did with the NAZIS in Europe, and Reagan did with the EVIL EMPIRE Communists, before the Cold War ended, and the WALL came down! "WHATABOUTISM" another new word Trastrick's picked up from the conspiracy theory internet sites. I suppose that will accompany "clapping seals" etc in every post now. I will use the term "Radical Islamist terrorists" in my above posts just to show I'm quite happy to use it. Don't know what his weird obsession is with certain sets of words. You should have learned as a kid, that you can rename anything you like but the person / object is still the same as they were. Invoking Churchill's name will not make your silly statements correct. To solve any problem, in case Churchill didn't know, you look at the thing which is causing it AND THAT IS NEVER ITS NAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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