Al Bundy Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mister Gee said: I’m appalled by the atrocities committed by Hamas and appalled by the reaction of Israel. I'm appalled by the atrocities committed by Hamas and I understand the reaction by Israel, however it's one of anger, hot headedness and revenge and not one that will work. Interesting read.... https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/polls-show-majority-gazans-were-against-breaking-ceasefire-hamas-and-hezbollah.. Half of Gazans (50%) agreed with the following proposal: “Hamas should stop calling for Israel’s destruction, and instead accept a permanent two-state solution based on the 1967 borders. That means 50% don't want to stop until Israel is destroyed. 75% support a group called Palestinian Islamic Jihad who sound worse than Hamas. Israel knows at this stage a new recognised state would just become a terrorist state on their doorstep free to import arms and militants as they please. It's never going to end is it? The only way Israel is ever going to see peace and quiet is if the Jews go and live somewhere else. Thankfully the majority of the world is more tolerant with immigrants. Edited October 15, 2023 by Al Bundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThaBoom Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 21 hours ago, Axe said: Telling them to move out is to avoid Palestinians being killed in a War zone created by the Hamas terrorists The only similar behaviour to Nazism is the Hamas terrorists who deliberately slaughtered innocent Jews and dragged other innocent Jews away. You mean like this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67114281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Al Bundy said: I'm appalled by the atrocities committed by Hamas and I understand the reaction by Israel, however it's one of anger, hot headedness and revenge and not one that will work. Interesting read.... https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/polls-show-majority-gazans-were-against-breaking-ceasefire-hamas-and-hezbollah.. Half of Gazans (50%) agreed with the following proposal: “Hamas should stop calling for Israel’s destruction, and instead accept a permanent two-state solution based on the 1967 borders. That means 50% don't want to stop until Israel is destroyed. 75% support a group called Palestinian Islamic Jihad who sound worse than Hamas. Israel knows at this stage a new recognised state would just become a terrorist state on their doorstep free to import arms and militants as they please. It's never going to end is it? The only way Israel is ever going to see peace and quiet is if the Jews go and live somewhere else. Thankfully the majority of the world is more tolerant with immigrants. . Quote Israel will never accept having to share or lose Jerusalem hence there never will be a 2 state solution. This is going to be a war where they grab the north of Gaza, read this here and then it may click to you what the big plan is= https://biblehub.com/luke/21-24.htm They knew the attack was coming but let it go ahead as it would give them justification in their minds to do as they please in their plan to remove the Gentiles from Jerusalem… Edited October 15, 2023 by mafya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThaBoom Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 All apartheid apologists. Start by reading these: • 'The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine' by Ilan Pappe https://amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B006QK4G1W/ • 'The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine' by Rashid Khalidi https://amazon.ca/Hundred-Years-War-Palestine-Colonialism/dp/1250787653/ • 'The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy' by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt https://amazon.ca/Israel-Lobby-US-Foreign-Policy/dp/0141031239/ • 'Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History' by Nur Masalha https://amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/1786992728/ • Save the Children Report: 'Hope under the Rubble: The impact of Israel’s home demolition policy on Palestinian children and their families - 2021' https://resourcecentre.savethechildren.net/document/hope-under-rubble-impact-israels-home-demolition-policy-palestinian-children-and-their/#:~:text=The%20findings%20of%20the%20research,from%20their%20friends%20and%20communities • Human Rights Watch Report: 'A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution' https://hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution • Press Release 25 March 2022: Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories: Israel has imposed upon Palestine an apartheid reality in a post-apartheid world https://ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/special-rapporteur-situation-human-rights-occupied-palestinian-territories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Organgrinder said: I have said repeatedly on this forum that no kind of terrorist is to my liking. I do not support terrorists. I also do NOT support countries like Israel who steal their neighbours land. Here's our "But" boy, Orgy. Always right! On War - PACIFIST/ But, will fight to the death to protect home and country On COVID - Supported Mandates/But, supports Free Choice On Ukraine - Supports Zelenskyy/But, supports a Legal Internationally Enforced Resolution On Middle East - see above! "I've looked at life from both sides now From up and down and still somehow It's life's illusions I recall I really don't know life at all" -J. Mitchell " I have said repeatedly..........." - Organgrinder And indeed you have, possums. Edited October 15, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 13 hours ago, harvey19 said: It gets people to think rather than just reading a sentence and moving on. Good luck with THAT, amigo! The Left/MSM are in lockstep with each other. They got their boy in the White House and will not say anything bad about the guy. Even if he's got two new endless major wars going, crime filled streets, uncontrolled borders, economic chaos, foreign money rolling in to his family, and a long list of lies that put his predecessor to shame! If I missed any complaints about Biden, here, let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, trastrick said: Good luck with THAT, amigo! The Left/MSM are in lockstep with each other. They got their boy in the White House and will not say anything bad about the guy. Even if he's got two new endless major wars going, crime filled streets, uncontrolled borders, economic chaos, foreign money rolling in to his family, and a long list of lies that put his predecessor to shame! If I missed any complaints about Biden, here, let me know! But apart from that...... 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Jack Grey said: True Or maybe they did and they chose to ignore it I'm surprised the Americans didn't hear anything That's a good question, Harvey. The U.S. has surveillance and Intelligence technology that allows them to keep track of Russian, Chinese, North Korea, Middle East preparations, even the movement of Trump supporter in the States. They know the position of every Russian tank in the Ukraine. Even what was going on in a trillionth, of a trillionth second after The Big Bang, Such a failure of Intelligence to keep the World and our Allies. safe from surprise attack by the bad guys, would normally be a scandal that would have Media and politicians of ALL stripes, dragging CIA, FBI, and NI all before Congress to account for this gross failure. But not a peep! So maybe it was just one more SNAFU of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, that Netanyahu, who happens to be on the Democrat's Enemy List, along with Trump, Musk, DeSanti nnd a few others, was blindsided by the attack. "Mistakes were made, let's move on!" The same sort of co-incidence that saw a Virus originating in Communist China, cause a pandemic that shut down the Western Economy, and put an end to The Trump Presidency. Odd, that! 13 hours ago, harvey19 said: Strange isn't it no one has answered but instead attacked me. Not really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, trastrick said: That's a good question, Harvey. The U.S. has surveillance and Intelligence technology that allows them to keep track of Russian, Chinese, North Korea, Middle East preparations, even the movement of Trump supporter in the States. They know the position of every Russian tank in the Ukraine. Even what was going on in a trillionth, of a trillionth second after The Big Bang, Such a failure of Intelligence to keep the World and our Allies. safe from surprise attack by the bad guys, would normally be a scandal that would have Media and politicians of ALL stripes, dragging CIA, FBI, and NI all before Congress to account for this gross failure. But not a peep! So maybe it was just one more SNAFU of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, that Netanyahu, who happens to be on the Democrat's Enemy List, along with Trump, Musk, DeSanti nnd a few others, was blindsided by the attack. "Mistakes were made, let's move on!" The same sort of co-incidence that saw a Virus originating in Communist China, cause a pandemic that shut down the Western Economy, and put an end to The Trump Presidency. Odd, that! Not really! Not only attacked but personal insults also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauxwell Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Putin has called on the United Nations to intervene and stop the violence in the Israel and Gaza conflict, he wants a humanitarian ceasefire. He’s concerned about the number of civilian casualties in Gaza. This is the man who bombed maternity hospitals and killed innocent people in Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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