Meadowhead New Football/Rugby Ground Plus More

[AndrewC]

3 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

Decontamination isn't impossible, plenty of industrial sites are decontaminated.

 

Looks from Google maps like there are large areas of it under tarmac or concrete, not sure what habitats would be lost by building on what would seem to be a brownfield site. Referring to the area between lightwood House and bowman drive.

Never impossible, but a potentially huge impact on the financial viability of any scheme, depending on who has to pay the costs.

[Bargepole23]

7 minutes ago, AndrewC said:

Never impossible, but a potentially huge impact on the financial viability of any scheme, depending on who has to pay the costs.

What is it contaminated with?

 

Other sites get decontaminated, presumably the financial impact isn't so great as to deter developers?

[bassett one]

 

14 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

What is it contaminated with?

 

Other sites get decontaminated, presumably the financial impact isn't so great as to deter developers?

something to do with oil tanks and petrol from the war i believe,could also be asbestos from the buildings

[AndrewC]

20 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

What is it contaminated with?

 

Other sites get decontaminated, presumably the financial impact isn't so great as to deter developers?

Absolutely no idea what Norton is contaminated with.

 

Different types and extents of contamination will cost different amounts, so it basically all comes down to how those clean-up costs impact the bottom line of a potential development. Maybe one site the clean-up bill is £50k, and at Norton Aerodrome it would be £10 million? No idea, but you see the difference. Developers will have to factor in those extra costs and decide if it's still worth carrying on with a development, i.e. will they still make a profit. 

 

Presumably private developers (and the Council) have looked at Norton before, done their research, worked out the clean-up costs, seen how it impacts their return on investment and concluded it isn't worthwhile. Perhaps if the land value changes and/or the potential return on each house they sell goes up then it might eventually outweigh the costs of any clean-up and so make it worthwhile to redevelop.

 

Other sites presumably were either cheaper clean-up costs, or they could sell the houses/flats for more money, in which case it still made sense to proceed with development.

[Andy_terrier]

1 hour ago, Meltman said:

The aerodrome would make a good park and ride....if the tram went closer. 

not sure it would - its extending the tram from "nowhere" to a "bit further into nowhere".  The only benefit I can see is its large, presumably cheap (if all you do is put a car park there) and accessible.  I think it has to at least have to go to somewhere people would want to go to.

[prince al]

Can’t wait for the new stadium! A fantastic addition for our city.

[Meltman]

46 minutes ago, Andy_terrier said:

not sure it would - its extending the tram from "nowhere" to a "bit further into nowhere".  The only benefit I can see is its large, presumably cheap (if all you do is put a car park there) and accessible.  I think it has to at least have to go to somewhere people would want to go to.

My original post suggested extending the tram to Meadowhead with a park and ride at the old aerodrome. It's attractions  cheap as you say, not used for many years for a reason maybe, accessible from several areas including Dronfield, Coal Aston,  Gleadless, Norton, Lowedges and Greenhill to name a few. The tram extension should be cheaper than say digging up  Chesterfield Road which may make it more attractive and re-the places where people want to go....well in one direction, the new stadium if it gets built ,the shopping centre and travel home from work in Sheffield/Rotherham, and the other direction, to work and away from the stadium and shopping centre.

[Planner1]

5 hours ago, AndrewC said:

Absolutely no idea what Norton is contaminated with.

 

Different types and extents of contamination will cost different amounts, so it basically all comes down to how those clean-up costs impact the bottom line of a potential development. Maybe one site the clean-up bill is £50k, and at Norton Aerodrome it would be £10 million? No idea, but you see the difference. Developers will have to factor in those extra costs and decide if it's still worth carrying on with a development, i.e. will they still make a profit. 

 

Presumably private developers (and the Council) have looked at Norton before, done their research, worked out the clean-up costs, seen how it impacts their return on investment and concluded it isn't worthwhile. Perhaps if the land value changes and/or the potential return on each house they sell goes up then it might eventually outweigh the costs of any clean-up and so make it worthwhile to redevelop.

 

Other sites presumably were either cheaper clean-up costs, or they could sell the houses/flats for more money, in which case it still made sense to proceed with development.

The amount of houses they can build on the site will be a factor, The draft local plan was aparrently suggesting 270 or so. 
 

If there is a viability gap ( it costs too much to clean up the land and the developer wouldn’t make a profit) there are sometimes government grants available to help. The Brownfield Housing Fund (BHF) is one such government fund. 

[Longcol]

Thread on the aerodrome from the last  couple of years.

 

 

 

[foxydebs]

On 07/12/2023 at 11:14, Thirsty Relic said:

.... which of course is one of the reasons the planners will be wanting this to  go ahead - it will cause pressure from people for a resolution of the extra traffic problems this development will bring .... and the planners will then say the solution is their pet idea - Supertram!  Which, when they get it installed,  will mean less parking for cars visiting Woodseats shops, and more shops closing as a result - even if they survived the disruption caused by the inevitable major chaos of the work laying the tracks down.

They wouldn't need to come up woodseats, run a spur from herdings.