Immigration Numbers?

[El Cid]

31 minutes ago, butlers said:

Yes great idea.

Education is the biggest industry in Sheffield.

Until only a couple of years back students put more into the Sheffield GDP than all but 3 other cities

Not all univercity graduates are good, Jared O'Mara!

15 minutes ago, Mister M said:

I don't understand why people have got a gripe against foreign students.

They subsidise British students because their fees are much higher, and when they go back to their countries, which the majority do, they tell people what a great place the UK is to live. It's a real source of soft power in the world

If the Government could build 745,000 homes, that would be ok.

[Axe]

14 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Well that'll cause the NHS and social care sector no end of problems 

And what if these 'benefit scroungers' don't live near farms? And don't say force them to move 

The problems would only be short term because it would bring a massive incentive to recruit British born people to train and do the jobs in those sectors. As my Grandma used to say "Short term pain leads to long term gain"

[geared]

3 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Not all univercity graduates are good, Jared O'Mara!

 

 

What's he got to do with it?

[Axe]

6 minutes ago, geared said:

 

What's he got to do with it?

He might be quoting something what he said.  

[Mister M]

13 minutes ago, Axe said:

The problems would only be short term because it would bring a massive incentive to recruit British born people to train and do the jobs in those sectors. As my Grandma used to say "Short term pain leads to long term gain"

Not really because there has been shortages in health and social care for many years.

That's down to poor wages, things like LAs being cut to the bone and forced to do practices like compulsory competitive tendering, and massive de-skilling in the sector, and the fact that care work is seen as something "anyone can do". No they can't.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Mister M

[Axe]

9 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Not really because there has been shortages in health and social care for many years.

That's down to poor wages, things like LAs being cut to the bone and forced to do practices like compulsory competitive tendering, and massive de-skilling in the sector, and the fact that care work is seen as something "anyone can do". No they can't.

Too many families are too selfish and too lazy which is why there is a problem regarding social care.  Families should look after their own and not rely on social care.  It is a disgrace that immigration is supported to justify British born people not pulling their own weight in sectors such as social care and agriculture. 

[Mister M]

9 minutes ago, Axe said:

Too many families are too selfish and too lazy which is why there is a problem regarding social care.  Families should look after their own and not rely on social care.  It is a disgrace that immigration is supported to justify British born people not pulling their own weight in sectors such as social care and agriculture. 

Firstly a lot of families do "pull their weight" and only put loved ones in a care home when it is not safe for them to be in their own home. Secondly, the burden of caring for an elderly relative typically falls on the female, who may have young children to look after, or other caring responsibilities. Thirdly, many family carers cannot cope. They are isolated, penniless and burnt out. Fourthly, due to rising mortgage rates (thanks Liz Truss), many families need both adults to work to pay their mortgages and bills. Fifthly, many people who do go into care homes do so of the own volition.

Incidentally, you've just outed yourself again, because when you were on here as West77, you advanced exactly the same argument ("Too many families are too selfish and too lazy...."), and as I remember you fell under the weight of your own poor arguments and reasoning.

Well done.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Mister M

[Axe]

4 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Firstly a lot of families do "pull their weight" and only put loved ones in a care home when it is not safe for them to be in their own home. Secondly, the burden of caring for an elderly relative typically falls on the female, who may have young children to look after, or other caring responsibilities. Thirdly, many family carers cannot cope. They are isolated, penniless and burnt out. Fourthly, due to rising mortgage rates (thanks Liz Truss), many families need both adults to work to pay their mortgages and bills. Fifthly, many people who do go into care homes do so of the own volition.

Incidentally, you've just outed yourself again, because when you were on here as West77, you advanced exactly the same argument ("Too many families are too selfish and too lazy...."), and as I remember you fell under the weight of your own poor arguments and reasoning.

Well done.

This West 77 contributor is obviously very sensible and knowledgeable  for having the same opinions or arguments as myself.

[Prettytom]

Just now, Axe said:

This West 77 contributor is obviously very sensible and knowledgeable  for having the same opinions or arguments as myself.

Hush now and get a bit of rest.

 

You’ve got potatoes to pick in the morning.

[El Cid]

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

Well that'll cause the NHS and social care sector no end of problems 

And what if these 'benefit scroungers' don't live near farms? And don't say force them to move 

It was saying on the news that wages in the care sector were higher, but they have been reduced due to the flood of immigrants.

38 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Not really because there has been shortages in health and social care for many years.

That's down to poor wages, things like LAs being cut to the bone and forced to do practices like compulsory competitive tendering, and massive de-skilling in the sector, and the fact that care work is seen as something "anyone can do". No they can't.

There are massive charges to put old and vulnerable people into care, they are making a fortune.

Analysts predict the market opportunity for healthcare stocks will grow annually by double-digits over the next decade.