Guest Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Axe said: At the moment it is too easy to recruit foreign workers to do jobs English born people should be doing. Less immigration will force care homes to train English born people to do the work and pay higher wages. But the government are not doing it. That's just a load of rubbish whilst everything carries on the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mister M said: Why were there so many life threatening situations, accidents, minimum wage regulations ignored, other basic requirements ignored? Minimum wage regulations were not ignored.What other basic requirements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Organgrinder said: Why is this in particular, relevant to the debate? It simply tells us what we know - that the government has no coherent policy for anything and therefore, nothing is running as it should. Why not train English care home staff up, and pay them the proper rate for the job, so that we don't need to recruit foreign ones. This will have the advantage of cutting down on immigration numbers too. The employers talk up the role, but its just caring for someone. A few weeks training will be fine. Older people in care homes would be more suited to being looked after people from their own culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, El Cid said: The employers talk up the role, but its just caring for someone. A few weeks training will be fine. Older people in care homes would be more suited to being looked after people from their own culture. As ordinary carers for people who are old but not too seriously ill or frail, you would be correct. Having said that, it just isn't happening, is it and it hasn't happened for years. Nobody is training people up to do the job but importing them from abroad instead. We all know what NEEDS doing but NOBODY is doing it. There lies your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 One of the most interesting things about the £38000 per year the government have set the income threshold at is that they say this is the amount you need to be able to support yourself without support from the state. And yet 60% of men and 75% of women in the UK earn less than that. So that means that the government thinks wages in the UK are not enough for around 70% of people to live on without recourse to the state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Delbow said: So that means that the government thinks wages in the UK are not enough for around 70% of people to live on without recourse to the state. Do you think those families that are helped by the state are grateful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, El Cid said: Do you think those families that are helped by the state are grateful? In my experience yes, for many it's a lifeline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 They never wanted to leave the EU so they could get their cheap nannies and construction workers and fruit pickers So they're allowing in millions through the legal routes instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Jack Grey said: They never wanted to leave the EU so they could get their cheap nannies and construction workers and fruit pickers So they're allowing in millions through the legal routes instead They don't want a massive recession, the NHS and key sections of the economy to go to pot... just at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Labour councillor will get you a bogus visa for £1500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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