Shirkers And Scroungers?

[The_DADDY]

6 hours ago, Staunton said:

As the conservatives contemplate the collapse of their support in the next election, commons officials, in an oh so reasonable sounding proposal, are arranging that MPs losing their seat should enjoy tax-payer funded training from HR contractors to support them as they face unemployment.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67629470

 

But let us not forget that once the tory/lib-dem coalition had been formed in 2010, George Osborne lost no time in unleashing his ideologically imposed austerity, which led to a staggering number of public sector employees being made redundant. For example, the police nationally lost twenty thousand skilled and experienced officers and even more civilian staff, HMRC lost thousands of tax officials, and local authorities across the country were forced to make front line staff redundant, which led to a rapid decline in service provision.

 

But things didn't end with these cynical neoliberal assaults on the public sector. Osborne and his tory colleagues then went on to demonise unemployed people, with shirker and scrounger rhetoric (with the eager assistance of the right-wing press).

 

 

"According to the document, a scheme could see defeated MPs offered "on-demand" career coaching and access to "networking opportunities".

 

It adds that they could also have access to a career coach to help them identify their transferable skills, and write a CV "that stands out in the crowd".

 

Nice!

The hypocrisy is stark.

My bold

There are posters on here who do the same. Having been on benefits for a time I was grateful for the safety net. It allowed me to care for my son full time which wasn't easy but we got past it, his health eventually improved and I got him back in college. Being on benefits hurt my pride a great deal but without that safety net I'm not sure where we would be today. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold

There are posters on here who do the same. Having been on benefits for a time I was grateful for the safety net. It allowed me to care for my son full time which wasn't easy but we got past it, his health eventually improved and I got him back in college. Being on benefits hurt my pride a great deal but without that safety net I'm not sure where we would be today. 

Ha ha ha,   you're not fooling me.

I know some genuine ones and I know some who've been taking ordinary people for a ride.

 

[Baron99]

19 minutes ago, Mister M said:

I remember having to go to one of those job clubs. Never felt so patronised in my life

I've never been on any Job Club but I remember a relative having to go on one, somewhere down just off The Wicker in the early 1990's for her level of qualifications. 

 

It does strike me if you go for PPE at uni, you're limiting yourself. 

Edited December 10, 2023 by Baron99

[Mister M]

1 minute ago, Baron99 said:

I've never been on any Job Club but I remember a relative having to go on one, somewhere down just off The Wicker in the early 1990's for her level of qualifications. 

It wasn't very pleasant, but I think it was designed to be like that.

I don't begrudge outgoing MPs courtesy, but I wished they'd extend that same courtesy and kindness to the unemployed. I don't think it is as common today, but back in the 1980s and 1990s the vitriol that was poured on the unemployed was dreadful.

[Ms Macbeth]

There are training and upskilling options for unemployed people.    https://skillsforlife.campaign.gov.uk/?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=AdultSkills23_202307_0_All&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-sSEwsKFgwMV55JQBh0T-wXKEAMYASAAEgIRa_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Staunton]

Of course, Osborne's austerity rhetoric was bogus. His claims were based on a flawed research paper, as Hannah Fry details in part ten of her Uncharted series on BBC Radio 4, titled Devil in the Detail.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001r1s4

 

Don't expect such revelations to humble George Osborne though. His motivation was entirely ideological, the same ideology that the failed premier Liz Truss attempted to enact in her disastrous policy impositions.

[cuttsie]

3 hours ago, Anna B said:

MPs who are unseated at an election (and probably at other times) get a very handsome pay off I believe as a kind of redundancy payment. Last time I heard it was in the region of £45,000

And they don't seem to have much trouble getting a future job, often on the cushy board of directors or as a lobbyist for some company or other- also extremely well paid, etc.

 

Bear in mind that we are in dire need of all kinds of qualified trades people because they have to pay for their own training themselves in most cases which puts a lot of people off.

I don't know any ex MPs who would like to retrain as plumbers, do you?.

One Sheffield ex MP got £100,000  resettlement fee , he had lived in the same house for 40 years or more .

Freebies at sporting events and so on.   Socialists all the way to the bank .

[hackey lad]

1 hour ago, cuttsie said:

One Sheffield ex MP got £100,000  resettlement fee , he had lived in the same house for 40 years or more .

Freebies at sporting events and so on.   Socialists all the way to the bank .

Caborn ?

[despritdan]

There'll be plenty of jobs picking fruit and vegetables for all the Tory MPs who lose their seats at the next election, including Sunak. At least he won't get his trouser bottoms dirty as they'll be 6 inches above the mud.

[The_DADDY]

2 minutes ago, despritdan said:

There'll be plenty of jobs picking fruit and vegetables for all the Tory MPs who lose their seats at the next election, including Sunak. At least he won't get his trouser bottoms dirty as they'll be 6 inches above the mud.

I went fruit picking with the kids some years back. Whirlow farm iirc. It was loads of fun and the fruit was delicious 😋