Steelmonger Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 11/12/23 the Sheffield council reported a higher percentage of electric vehicles in the low emission zones around Sheffield ,the two points they missed out on in this report was if you have less diesel and petrol vehicles around the city centre the percentage of electric vehicles will be higher, ,they also failed to report the most important fact and that is the overall air pollution around the city centre has not gone down one iota Edit Delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Steelmonger said: 11/12/23 the Sheffield council reported a higher percentage of electric vehicles in the low emission zones around Sheffield ,the two points they missed out on in this report was if you have less diesel and petrol vehicles around the city centre the percentage of electric vehicles will be higher, ,they also failed to report the most important fact and that is the overall air pollution around the city centre has not gone down one iota Edit Delete Like I've said before climate change and health are just stealth taxes It's pure and simple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 are we monitoring CO2 in the CAZ ? (seems unlikely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 CO2 in the atmosphere is currently 0.04% Humans are responsible for just 11% of that 0.04% The climate crisis is a scam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Ritus Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) The CAZ isn't about co2, its mainly atmospheric particulate matter (or getting some more money) I was trying to find some historical data on NOx and atmospheric particulate matter for Sheffield centre, it is annoying to read the council spinning on about how they have made over £3m and reduced the number of older diesels in the city centre without showing how much they have actually reduced pollution by, which is what it is really supposed to be all about. Although practical effort to improve the air quality is a good thing this is just daft, as said before like pollution just stops travelling at the edge of the CAZ from outside or the diesel trains emissions don't count. Edited December 12, 2023 by Arthur Ritus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: CO2 in the atmosphere is currently 0.04% Humans are responsible for just 11% of that 0.04% pre-industrial levels of CO2 were about 280ppm, it's now over 420 and climbing. that's an increase of 140 as a percentage increase, that's exactly 50% but what has this got to do with The Sheffield CAZ? 8 minutes ago, Arthur Ritus said: without showing how much they have actually reduced pollution by, which is what it is really supposed to be all about. so how are you claiming 1 hour ago, Steelmonger said: they also failed to report the most important fact and that is the overall air pollution around the city centre has not gone down one iota ? Edited December 12, 2023 by ads36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Arthur Ritus said: The CAZ isn't about co2, its mainly atmospheric particulate matter (or getting some more money) I was trying to find some historical data on NOx and atmospheric particulate matter for Sheffield centre, it is annoying to read the council spinning on about how they have made over £3m and reduced the number of older diesels in the city centre without showing how much they have actually reduced pollution by, which is what it is really supposed to be all about. Although practical effort to improve the air quality is a good thing this is just daft, as said before like pollution just stops travelling at the edge of the CAZ from outside or the diesel trains emissions don't count. There have long been calls, since the first inception of CAZ/ULEZ that councils must publish LIVE data for independent analysis. Every operator of CAZ/ULEZ schemes has been vehemently against this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Resident said: There have long been calls, since the first inception of CAZ/ULEZ that councils must publish LIVE data for independent analysis. Every operator of CAZ/ULEZ schemes has been vehemently against this. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, RollingJ said: I wonder why? Because it's a tax on the driver who has already been taxed to the hilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrotequila Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Resident said: There have long been calls, since the first inception of CAZ/ULEZ that councils must publish LIVE data for independent analysis. Every operator of CAZ/ULEZ schemes has been vehemently against this. That should tell you everything you need to know about these schemes 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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