British Post Office Scandal

[RJRB]

1 hour ago, Organgrinder said:

If a serious incident occurs and lives are lost and ruined,  it's the manufacturers fault.

If this same thing reoccurs over and over again then manifestly so.

That is true and I think that Fujitsu have today admitted some moral responsibility whatever that might mean.

However if you as a business commission a service or equipment then there comes a point in time when the contract is signed off as being accepted.

Responsibility reverts to those who signed it off which in this case must be The Post Office.

I assume that Fujitsu had some ongoing service contract which should have been working in conjunction with feedback from Post Office Engineers.

[alchresearch]

Any coders on here?  This is pretty shocking

 

 

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[cuttsie]

Did them there dodgy computers ever put lots of money into those accounts , You would think it would work both ways .

[Guest]

5 hours ago, cuttsie said:

Did them there dodgy computers ever put lots of money into those accounts , You would think it would work both ways .

Computers don't work in the same way as people so it depends on how the software is written.

Again,  it's not the computer which makes mistakes,  it's the software program it's running and that's dependant on the  "clever ?"  people who wrote it.

 

[Staunton]

Margaret Thatcher's insistence that there is no such thing as society was a statement of intent rather than an observation of fact. And her intentions have been made clear in the Post Office scandal. Yesterday, at the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, Alan Bates, one of the central figures in the campaign against the Post Office said: 'As you got to meet people and realise it wasn't just yourself, and you saw the harm and injustice that descended on them, it was something you felt you had to deal with...'

 

The neoliberal project demands that ordinary people are forced into the position of isolated individuals, alone and defenceless, in order that they may be made fully exploitable. And the government departments, corporate companies and smaller businesses who do the exploiting will, as Bates went on to explain in a witness statement in relation to the Post Office, engage in 'denying, lying, defending, and attempting to discredit him and other sub-postmasters [who had been routinely told that none of their colleagues had been experiencing any problems] over the last two decades.'

 

The denial of community, of society, is a central component of the neoliberal project, along with privatisation, dismantling public services, deregulation and tax abuse, that is structured to profit the privileged few at the expense of everybody else.

[hackey lad]

2 minutes ago, Staunton said:

Margaret Thatcher's insistence that there is no such thing as society was a statement of intent rather than an observation of fact. And her intentions have been made clear in the Post Office scandal. Yesterday, at the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, Alan Bates, one of the central figures in the campaign against the Post Office said: 'As you got to meet people and realise it wasn't just yourself, and you saw the harm and injustice that descended on them, it was something you felt you had to deal with...'

 

The neoliberal project demands that ordinary people are forced into the position of isolated individuals, alone and defenceless, in order that they may be made fully exploitable. And the government departments, corporate companies and smaller businesses who do the exploiting will, as Bates went on to explain in a witness statement in relation to the Post Office, engage in 'denying, lying, defending, and attempting to discredit him and other sub-postmasters [who had been routinely told that none of their colleagues had been experiencing any problems] over the last two decades.'

 

The denial of community, of society, is a central component of the neoliberal project, along with privatisation, dismantling public services, deregulation and tax abuse, that is structured to profit the privileged few at the expense of everybody else.

Riveting 

[Mister M]

2 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Riveting 

Perhaps you could construct an argument which is both interesting and informative on the subject of the Post Office scandal.

[El Cid]

"Arbuthnot also told the inquiry he was "frustrated" with successive governments' arm's-length approach to the Post Office when he raised potential issues2.

 

The politicains seem to be throwing blame at the Post Office, even suggesting someone will end up behind bars.

I wonder if any MPs will be found intelligent enough to have worked out what was going on?

Numerous Post Maters contacted their MPs, but got no further.

[Axe]

7 minutes ago, El Cid said:

"Arbuthnot also told the inquiry he was "frustrated" with successive governments' arm's-length approach to the Post Office when he raised potential issues2.

 

The politicains seem to be throwing blame at the Post Office, even suggesting someone will end up behind bars.

I wonder if any MPs will be found intelligent enough to have worked out what was going on?

Numerous Post Maters contacted their MPs, but got no further.

The Post Office  management is to blame for the Post Office scandal.   Those MPs believed the Post Office rather than what the Post Masters were telling them.  It is understandable why they took the side of the Post Office at the time. 

[El Cid]

57 minutes ago, Axe said:

The Post Office  management is to blame for the Post Office scandal.   Those MPs believed the Post Office rather than what the Post Masters were telling them.  It is understandable why they took the side of the Post Office at the time. 

I believe that there will be more revelations and it will come out that others knew too, not all MPs are that dim.