bungleboy69 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-london-firstgroup-applies-run-new-faster-direct-train-steel-city-capital-4467102 Could be interesting... maybe a bit of competition for MML. Only 2 return journeys a day though. Good news for Worksop, Retford and people living in Woodhouse. Wonder how long it'll take to get to London using this service given the claims it will be faster... if I'm correct some services to London take just over 2 hours at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrsaljko Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 As you say, you can already get to London in 2 hours 5 minutes which is pretty decent. Is there really any need to try and improve on that when they will only be able to shave 10-15 minutes off the journey time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: As you say, you can already get to London in 2 hours 5 minutes which is pretty decent. Is there really any need to try and improve on that when they will only be able to shave 10-15 minutes off the journey time? You say it's decent but Doncaster has a train that takes half an hour less. So for a city the size of Sheffield the journey time is a bit of a disgrace really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 23 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: As you say, you can already get to London in 2 hours 5 minutes which is pretty decent. Is there really any need to try and improve on that when they will only be able to shave 10-15 minutes off the journey time? Any incremental improvement on the travel time between Sheffield & the capital (or indeed anywhere) shouldn't be sniffed at, particularly when it means some extra capacity too. Quote Is there really any need to try and improve? Sheffield folk, eh?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Also, what is the total journey time to London for someone living in or near Woodhouse at the moment? A lot longer than 2 hours and 5 minutes I bet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkapaka Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 35 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: As you say, you can already get to London in 2 hours 5 minutes which is pretty decent. Is there really any need to try and improve on that when they will only be able to shave 10-15 minutes off the journey time? It’s not just the time it’s the extra service and from different locations also - it’s great news. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 26 minutes ago, Delbow said: Also, what is the total journey time to London for someone living in or near Woodhouse at the moment? A lot longer than 2 hours and 5 minutes I bet. And anyone in Worksop has to take an infrequent train to either Retford or Nottingham, the latter takes ages, and the former requires moving from low level to high level platforms. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Swaine Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, bungleboy69 said: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-london-firstgroup-applies-run-new-faster-direct-train-steel-city-capital-4467102 Could be interesting... maybe a bit of competition for MML. Only 2 return journeys a day though. Good news for Worksop, Retford and people living in Woodhouse. Wonder how long it'll take to get to London using this service given the claims it will be faster... if I'm correct some services to London take just over 2 hours at the minute. The current travel time to London Saint Pancras from Sheffield is 2 hours 1 minute for most of the fast services. Services calling at Long Eaton, East Midlands Parkway & Loughborough take slightly longer. The East Coast Mainline, which these proposed services would use beyond Retford, generally has higher line speeds, with 125mph being permitted for much of the line. The Midland Mainline, which EMR services use to Saint Pancras only has 125mph running between Bedford and London. However, line speed between Sheffield and Retford is significantly slower. I don't think there is a market for direct London services from Woodhouse. Worksop definitely could work. First Group also operate 2 Open Access (purely commercial) ventures on the East Coast Mainline, Hull Trains and Lumo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palomar Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Delbow said: Also, what is the total journey time to London for someone living in or near Woodhouse at the moment? A lot longer than 2 hours and 5 minutes I bet. I'm not convinced that anyone from Woodhouse has ever visited London. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Swaine Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 19 minutes ago, Palomar said: I'm not convinced that anyone from Woodhouse has ever visited London. They are quite a feral bunch around there, especially on the Badger Estate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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