Longcol Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) On 19/01/2024 at 09:54, Delbow said: So you lied. Ok. I agree that there should be a full enquiry into Oldham, and the local council should, in my view, have indicated they were keen to have one, but only the government can set up a public enquiry, so surely the main question is why they have chosen not to - literally, they have prevented a full enquiry from taking place. I don't know, but I'm guessing the government is satisfied with the safeguarding reviews that have subsequently taken place. I get the impression that some people aren't happy that that review found no evidence of a cover up - that they want there to have been a cover up - but I don't understand why. HMG were approached by Lib Dem and Tory members from Oldham Council but refused a public inquiry. https://neilwilby.com/2022/09/08/safeguarding-minister-says-no/ “In relation to your request that the Government institute a public inquiry into the findings of the Newsam and Ridgway reports, the Government continues to be clear that it is for the local authorities in individual towns and cities, which are responsible for delivering local services, to commission local inquiries. It is essential that local areas learn from what happened in the past, and to take appropriate action to drive improvement in local services." Edited January 21 by Longcol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) As if living in Oldham wasn't punishment enough!! Retched place, on a par with Rochdale and Blackburn. Edited January 21 by Al Bundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Al Bundy said: As if living in Oldham wasn't punishment enough!! Retched place, on a par with Rochdale and Blackburn. Some more prejudice. Are they more Wretched than any other place in the north ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Organgrinder said: Some more prejudice. Are they more Wretched than any other place in the north ? Probably not, I reckong Bradford probably takes the top spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Organgrinder said: Some more prejudice. Are they more Wretched than any other place in the north ? Yes, much more, I will add Burnley to the list also. Why is it prejudice to say some places are wretched? Are you suggesting all towns and cities are exactly the same? 37 minutes ago, Resident said: Probably not, I reckong Bradford probably takes the top spot. I don't mind Bradford, it's got a little bit of a buzz about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Al Bundy said: Yes, much more, I will add Burnley to the list also. Why is it prejudice to say some places are wretched? Are you suggesting all towns and cities are exactly the same? I don't mind Bradford, it's got a little bit of a buzz about it. In my experience Yes, most Northern places are very much the same. I might also say that whenever I complain about our "dead" city centre, lots of posters argue against me that everywhere else is the same as Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: In my experience Yes, most Northern places are very much the same. I might also say that whenever I complain about our "dead" city centre, lots of posters argue against me that everywhere else is the same as Sheffield. How do you know this? 'In your own oft-repeated words 'I don't travel much'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, RollingJ said: How do you know this? 'In your own oft-repeated words 'I don't travel much'. I don't travel on planes and ships. You can get to those places without being airborne or seaborne. I also don't travel regularly, weekly etc, but that doesn't mean that I don't travel at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Organgrinder said: I don't travel on planes and ships. You can get to those places without being airborne or seaborne. I also don't travel regularly, weekly etc, but that doesn't mean that I don't travel at all. Fair enough - I very rarely travel outside the UK these days too - but I do travel widely in the UK, and believe me, southern towns/cities have similar problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12990843/Rochdale-grooming-gang-ringleader-54-living-Britain-nearly-nine-years-meant-deported-Pakistan-sickening-child-sex-offences.html Hardly surprising that Pakistan doesn't want him is it. Some proper Heartbreakers in that group of photographs, the tide wouldn't take them out, never mind any females. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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