Nottingham Stabbings

[Baron99]

So a doctor warned the relevant bodies in a report 3 years before Calocane carried out the stabbings that he would probably kill & yet the warning was ignored. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c990rmvy4ero

 

Calocane refused to take his medication, became increasingly violent as a consequence & failed to turn up to his medical appointments, as a result he was basically referred back to his GP. 

 

How many bells, whistles & red flags need to go off for the 'professionals' to realise this was the point when they should have been taking more control of Calocane's life rather than passing him back to his GP? 

 

"The chief executive of Nottinghamshire's NHS trust said he would do everything he could to stop such a tragedy happening again." 

 

Well it's a bit different to the usual "Lessons will be learned." 

 

[Delbow]

1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

So a doctor warned the relevant bodies in a report 3 years before Calocane carried out the stabbings that he would probably kill & yet the warning was ignored. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c990rmvy4ero

 

Calocane refused to take his medication, became increasingly violent as a consequence & failed to turn up to his medical appointments, as a result he was basically referred back to his GP. 

 

How many bells, whistles & red flags need to go off for the 'professionals' to realise this was the point when they should have been taking more control of Calocane's life rather than passing him back to his GP? 

 

"The chief executive of Nottinghamshire's NHS trust said he would do everything he could to stop such a tragedy happening again." 

 

Well it's a bit different to the usual "Lessons will be learned." 

 

 

I've seen this far too often - people who don't attend their appointments deemed to be 'not engaging' and therefore discharged back to their GP, when it should be taken as a sign that their health might be deteriorating and a more assertive approach taken, i.e. go and find them, see how they are doing.

[ukdobby]

Hope they learn from their mistakes.

[Delbow]

1 hour ago, ukdobby said:

Hope they learn from their mistakes.

 

The upper management in NHS trusts are generally poor at learning from their mistakes, they have a defensive mindset. This is one of the things that Streeting wants to address. We saw it in the Lucy Letby case.

[Guest]

There seems to be very little accountability at the the top of any of our institutions.

[cuttsie]

Closing mental hospitals had a big effect on patients, Middlewood a prime example as so many patients ended up on the Streets.

[cressida]

32 minutes ago, cuttsie said:

Closing mental hospitals had a big effect on patients, Middlewood a prime example as so many patients ended up on the Streets.

Even if they are allowed out and some are (open) there was that mentally ill woman who stabbed a little girl who was playing in front of her parents in a park.

that really upset me.

Edited August 13 by cressida

[Baron99]

9 hours ago, Uggy said:

There seems to be very little accountability at the the top of any of our institutions.

And even fewer sackings! 

[Delbow]

38 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

And even fewer sackings! 

 

It really doesn't help that the CQC, which is supposed to scrutinise health trusts, is itself all over the place

 

There is so much to do that has been neglected for decades.

[ukdobby]

With what I can make out he had 8 risk assessments to see if he was ok to wander our streets,not one of them failed.