Guest Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 15 hours ago, Al Bundy said: There are millions upon millions of people in this country who have little or no loyalty to Britain and a fair number who are actively hostile to it. The idea you could just conscript them and send them off to war without mass violence and insurrection is laughable. That's mostly people of immigrant stock who have their first loyalty to other countries, but not just them. How's it going to go trying to conscript Celtic's "green brigade" into the British army? Or scousers who can't abide the national anthem? In the world of equality, we can't be seen to treat men and women differently or indeed to acknowledge any difference between them. So we'd be conscripting young men and women on an equal basis. Even amongst the general population who do have a loyalty to Britain, do you think people would just stand back and watch young mothers and daughters conscripted off to war? We've got a whole generation , probably 2 or 3 generations who've been brought up in a culture where hurty words are considered as bad if not worse than actual violence, who've never faced any kind of discipline and who very much "know their rights". They've also been brought up on to believe that Britain and it's history and culture is something to be ashamed of. The idea you could shape them into some sort of fighting force to take the fight to Russia across to protect their country seems delusional. The whole idea is laughable. Conscription could simply never work in modern Britain in any conceivable circumstances. I'm sure in a war that posed a genuine threat to the continuity of the nation there'd still be plenty of volunteers, mainly the kind of folk who are ridiculed as " Gammon" but any attempt at conscription would result in mass rebellion, the downfall of the government and hasten the victory of whichever enemy they'd managed to conjure up. They wouldn't bring conscription back simply because they would like to. Conscription is introduced in extreme emergency and, in those circumstances, I'm quite sure they won't ask Bundy whether he likes the idea. There has never been a mass rebellion as a result of conscription and I'm quite sure there never will. Surprised how knowledgeable he is about the war office and armed services inner workings for a bloke who just flies about and works maybe, though not in a Mr Bond capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findlay Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Lets face it, there will be a high percentage who would not pass a basic medical examination and there would be protected professions like in WWII, steel makers & engineers. Sorry Al Bundy but insurrection would be swiftly taken care of under Martial Law as in Ukraine right now. https://www.studysmarter.co.uk/explanations/law/uk-legal-system/martial-law/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkapaka Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 25/01/2024 at 12:55, Axe said: The way forward is to bring back the Army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force recruiting centres that used to be located in shopping areas like the high street. Also serving military should do talks in schools to help with the recruiting process. Why would you want to encourage impressionable children to join the army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Britannia waives The rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkapaka Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Let’s face it - if it gets to the point where we need to conscript soldiers we’re all as good as dead anyway. let’s hope it doesn’t happen and in the meantime make the most of what you’ve got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Mkapaka said: Let’s face it - if it gets to the point where we need to conscript soldiers we’re all as good as dead anyway. let’s hope it doesn’t happen and in the meantime make the most of what you’ve got. 100% agree with both points there 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I personally am all for it as it would get some of these punks that are knocking about, off the streets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I understand it could be necessary, but can't bear the idea of young soldiers being killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prettytom Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Ah yes, let’s ask some old folk whether we should send young men out to be killed. That’s always worked well, hasn’t it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, cressida said: I understand it could be necessary, but can't bear the idea of young soldiers being killed. In the event of war every man/woman has to do their bit, anyhow in peace time it would sort out this failing society out, get the begging scammers of the streets, it could be a good direction for jobless youngens, some might stop in and make a career out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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