London Chemical Attack

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1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

It probably would because it’s false .

But even acknowledging that and claiming to be a convert is punishable by death in the eyes of some Muslims whether true or not

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24 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

I was not 'aiming' it anywhere, but now you mention it - was the church not a little naive?

I'm not so bothered about the church being naive, it's what they do after all, but what on earth were the Home Office doing overriding their previous judgements about the guy because someone from a group of people known to be naively trusting says he should be allowed to stay!

[RollingJ]

Just now, Delayed said:

But even acknowledging that and claiming to be a convert is punishable by death in the eyes of some Muslims whether true or not

As I said - their warped interpretation of the Koran should be called into question, but for some reason it appears it is not.

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Just now, RollingJ said:

As I said - their warped interpretation of the Koran should be called into question, but for some reason it appears it is not.

I don't know enough about it to pass reasonable judgement tbh

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, altus said:

I'm not so bothered about the church being naive, it's what they do after all, but what on earth were the Home Office doing overriding their previous judgements about the guy because someone from a group of people known to be naively trusting says he should be allowed to stay!

A very good question - I wish the H.O. would give us a believable answer to that.

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5 minutes ago, altus said:

I'm not so bothered about the church being naive, it's what they do after all, but what on earth were the Home Office doing overriding their previous judgements about the guy because someone from a group of people known to be naively trusting says he should be allowed to stay!

That will be partly down to media and social pressure groups

[RollingJ]

Just now, Delayed said:

I don't know enough about it to pass reasonable judgement tbh

Fair enough. Although a number of my Muslim friends/contacts have told me that what these 'holy men' come out with is an aberration of their faith.

[RollingJ]

Just now, Delayed said:

That will be partly down to media and social pressure groups

Shouldn't be - they are supposed to be part of the system that protects the country.

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2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Shouldn't be - they are supposed to be part of the system that protects the country.

Agreed but I do think the home office are caught between a rock and a hard place. 

 

They either try and deport people which kicks up a storm before it's the wrong type of person which is where you get Human rights lawyers, charities, protestors or the general public to stop flights. 

 

Or you get the other half of the public complaining that the home office don't deport, grant everyone Asylum, give free houses and unlimited money to people etc. Etc 

 

And whichever government has their turn to try and improve things, they will face the same issues and chances are won't do the needful 

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, Delayed said:

Agreed but I do think the home office are caught between a rock and a hard place. 

 

They either try and deport people which kicks up a storm before it's the wrong type of person which is where you get Human rights lawyers, charities, protestors or the general public to stop flights. 

 

Or you get the other half of the public complaining that the home office don't deport, grant everyone Asylum, give free houses and unlimited money to people etc. Etc 

 

And whichever government has their turn to try and improve things, they will face the same issues and chances are won't do the needful 

I wonder who instigates this - obviously not people who have a regard for the majority, who merely wish to get on with their lives in relative peace and harmony. Wonder what they get out of it??