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We Need A Tunnel Under The Pennines


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1 minute ago, Longcol said:

Yes, nigh on 25 years ago a lorry caught fire and 39 people died.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc_Tunnel_fire

 

which is why there are strict safety measures in place these days.

 

The idea that we could have anything but a very short  a tunnel under the Pennines but be able to drive like on the Snake or Woodhead is laughable. 

Thank you. Cheers for the link too 👍

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2 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Have you seen my post ?  I didn't say it would just make it quicker.  It makes it safer, whatever the weather and it makes it cheaper and more convenient.

If it was worth doing in the first place,  they must have thought it was worth it.

If you prefer to live in a country which is behind everybody else with a system that hardly changed for over 100 years,  then I don't mind if you stay in the Victorian era.

Look at Japan's.  look at China's.     in fact look wherever you like among developed nations.  How did they afford it ?   How did they not cause national disaster ?  It's just excuses.

We were the first and built a railway system, the likes of which the world hadn't seen.   Now,  we are the poor relations.

Why is it cheaper ?

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1 minute ago, Longcol said:

Yes, nigh on 25 years ago a lorry caught fire and 39 people died.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc_Tunnel_fire

 

which is why there are strict safety measures in place these days.

 

The idea that we could have anything but a very short  a tunnel under the Pennines but be able to drive like on the Snake or Woodhead is laughable. 

Makes you wonder why they built the channel tunnel,  more than 4 times as long,  then doesn't it ?

They obviously haven't learned anything according to you.

 

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3 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Why would it make it very "extremely quick". Don't you expect any safety measures in a long tunnel?

Is the channel tunnel extremely slow ?

Doesn't it have safety measures ?

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Just now, Organgrinder said:

Makes you wonder why they built the channel tunnel,  more than 4 times as long,  then doesn't it ?

They obviously haven't learned anything according to you.

 

Only used by one train at a time. No cars or lorries driving through it.

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Road tunnels 

Lærdal Tunnel    Lærdal - Aurland, Norway                           24,510 m (15.2 mi)    2000
Jinpingshan    Sichuan, China                                                         17,500 m (10.9 mi)    2008
Gotthard Road Tunnel    Lepontine Alps, Switzerland    16,918 m (10.5 mi)    1980

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Just now, Organgrinder said:

Is the channel tunnel extremely slow ?

Doesn't it have safety measures ?

Compared to driving  20 odd miles, about 3 times as long. Safety measures - just one train at a time ,  A parallel safety tunnel for evacuation / rescue etc. Minimum cost one way £60.

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