12, 13 ,14 Year Old Kids Accused Of Rape

[cressida]

Probably too lazy to walk or cycle to a field.

[pattricia]

Technology is to blame. Computers and mobile phones. We had a better life without any of these devices !  Kids couldn’t wait to get outside after their tea. We had something called “ Fresh Air “ . 

[Baron99]

2 hours ago, iamwoody said:

easy access to porn on portable devices is the culprit and parents not monitoring use of the internet is my opinion of the cause .

Well maybe Esther Ghey, the mother of murdered Brianna Ghey, has the answer as she is proposing that a new, parent monitored, mobile phone be introduced for those under 16 years of age that can only access suitable websites & if the under 16's want anything else put on them, they need appropriate parental approval.  Additionally, parents mobiles are linked to their children's mobiles so the parents can see what websites their children are attempting to access. 

 

As I understand it, even social media websites have age restrictions of around the 14 years old mark but I know from my own family, some of my grandchildren had Facebook accounts before this age.  Their parents, my children's argument whenever it's cropped up is "Well all their friends are on it." 

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Edited February 12 by Baron99

[leviathan13]

2 hours ago, Baron99 said:

Well maybe Esther Ghey, the mother of murdered Brianna Ghey, has the answer as she is proposing that a new, parent monitored, mobile phone be introduced for those under 16 years of age that can only access suitable websites & if the under 16's want anything else put on them, they need appropriate parental approval.  Additionally, parents mobiles are linked to their children's mobiles so the parents can see what websites their children are attempting to access. 

 

As I understand it, even social media websites have age restrictions of around the 14 years old mark but I know from my own family, some of my grandchildren had Facebook accounts before this age.  Their parents, my children's argument whenever it's cropped up is "Well all their friends are on it." 

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I bet some parents, such as the one mentioned, would allow access to pro-trans websites, despite the potential harm the movement is causing by promoting mutilation and medication for those with mental health issues. 

[Palomar]

18 minutes ago, leviathan13 said:

I bet some parents, such as the one mentioned, would allow access to pro-trans websites, despite the potential harm the movement is causing by promoting mutilation and medication for those with mental health issues. 

Disgusting unnecessary comment, and far, far too soon.

[El Cid]

3 hours ago, pattricia said:

Technology is to blame. Computers and mobile phones. We had a better life without any of these devices !  Kids couldn’t wait to get outside after their tea. We had something called “ Fresh Air “ . 

I agree, its the tech not the parents, back in my day we were allowed to fend for ourselves and we learnt about everything, but we didnt learn about tech. So how are parents meant to know what to do?

[ECCOnoob]

24 minutes ago, El Cid said:

I agree, its the tech not the parents, back in my day we were allowed to fend for ourselves and we learnt about everything, but we didnt learn about tech. So how are parents meant to know what to do?

No it's the parents.  The tech is just a tool.   

 

After all it is the parents who are buying these devices and mobile phones for the kids. It is the parents who have some basic understanding how the tech works, because they will be using it themselves.  You don't have to be a technical wizard to understand the abundance of internet porn. You don't have to be a technical wizard to understand that nearly all devices and internet services have parental controls that can be installed within a few clicks of a button. 

 

Most of this technology did not come out yesterday.  The internet has been commonplace for 30 years. Smartphones been around for 20 years, Facebook was established in 2004, Instagram has been around for 13 years.

Even TikTok is now 8 years old....

 

If you are giving a device to your child, You take responsibility. I don't believe for one second that there is such blindness to what the internet is and what can be on there.  Hell even my 75 yr old mother understands basics on an iPad and how to Google things.

 

The average parent of a 12 to 15-year-old will have been surrounded by such tech for years and have a abundance of gadgets themselves.

 

Regardless, I am not see this instant connection with technology and the act committed by these offenders. There is no correlation that everyone who watches porn suddenly goes out to rape.  Pornography has been around for centuries. Back in the days of going out playing outside, there was the naughty boys going behind bushes, giggling and pointing at the sticky pages in the magazine they stole from their big brother.  That was the 12-year-olds sneaking into that 15 rated movie just because they get to see a boob.  Good grief back then there was plenty of chauvinistic behaviour and casual sexism shown on television programmes far more than there ever is today.  That was plenty of it in real life with women particularly being subject to lots of being inappropriate behaviour from the dominant male bosses or colleagues or many cases even their spouse. All being played out in front of the children and yet people were not going out and sexually assaulting people and then trying to blame it on seeing  busty babs in the latest carry on film.

 

There's even been the same hysterics and disproven theories is about the 'evils of technology'. 30 years ago when video games came out, everyone was to crying and shreaking  about children being exposed to graphic violent images of some barely visible cartoon pixel being shot with a gun and a tiny speck of red splattering on the screen....yet turned out people were not going out and creating mass murders.  

 

The reality is it's a tragic event. Nobody really knows what the motives of these boys were.  What background they had or what has caused   them to be so warped in their minds at such a young age.  It could be upbringing, it could be  manipulative influence, it could be cultural compliance, it could be revenge attack. It could be frustrations in retaliation for some other sort of mental disorder.   

 

Whatever punishment they get, like all these  circumstances, there's been four families destroyed in this incident. 

[aardvark6535]

When I was a kid, my brothers and I were not policed by our parents, we were policed by the whole estate, eyes everywhere, and the local copper would give you a clout just for the fun of it, told my mother about it once, and she gave me one as well saying  " You must have done something" lol - Respect, we had respect for our elders, opened doors, stood up for other people.

[Baron99]

2 hours ago, leviathan13 said:

I bet some parents, such as the one mentioned, would allow access to pro-trans websites, despite the potential harm the movement is causing by promoting mutilation and medication for those with mental health issues. 

My bold. 

 

Valid point.  Let's hope at some stage a competent journalist puts that point to Esther Ghey?

[El Cid]

1 hour ago, ECCOnoob said:

No it's the parents.  The tech is just a tool.   

 

Its a similar situation with food and obesity. Do you blame the obese people themselves, or the fact that our bodies desire more food, because what we eat is super processed and often high in sugar?

People are put into un-natural situations, where our minds are over-stimulated.

People have changed this decade, communication via social media and text is the norm, people are losing that conection with each other.