HeHasRisen Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BigAl1 said: Like I have said it is not the new restrictions I have an issue with, although like Longcol I have never seen the car park anything like full, it is the lack of adequate publicity that the rules have changed. Yes they have the standard signs at the entrances and around the car park but how many regular users of a car park will think to read them just in case there has been a change. What "publicity" do you think is sufficient in this case then? Put it on receipts? Nobody reads those either, and most people dont even bother. Edited February 22 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) On 20/02/2024 at 15:56, BigAl1 said: For as long as I can remember the car park at infirmary road sheffield has allowed virtually unlimited parking time. Suddenly with no announcement the parking time has been reduced to only 2 hours. I know it is contracted out to a private company but I can not for the life of me understand why either Tesco or the company has not put out big signs at the two entrances warning drivers of the change. Does anyone really expect customers who have been using the car park for years to study the parking rules every visit just in case they are changed? Typically the response I got from the customer services was the car parking is out sourced so there is nothing we can do when of course there is. This quite frankly is astonishing as it is loyal Tesco customers who will be fined and of course Tesco could erect the signs or force the contractor to do so. I sincerely hope Tesco will pay the fines for all unsuspecting customers who have fallen foul of the new rules until large warning signs are placed at both entrances. I have no issues with the reduction in time allowed just the crass disregard for customers You mean these signs? (Circled in red for your convenience). These ones are only the ones visible from Albert Terrace Road. via StreetView. There are equally visible signs from Montgomery Terrace using the same method. If you don't see multiple bright blue signs appear in a car park where previously there weren't any then I wonder if you should be behind the wheel of a car given your observational skills are severely lacking. Also, the image attached was taken in July 2023 so they've been there a good 7 months, dispelling your assertion that it was 'sudden' Edited February 22 by Resident 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Maybe he is expecting a full TV advertising campaign, maybe a series of billboards through the city. Not sure what he is expecting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 7 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: Maybe he is expecting a full TV advertising campaign, maybe a series of billboards through the city. Not sure what he is expecting. You reckon we could get SCC to do that for bus gates too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 20/02/2024 at 23:01, metalman said: Morrisons at Hillsborough is one example, I think. Can't remember seeing charges for parking at the big Tesco's between Spital Hill / Saville Street or the Morrisons at Catcliffe either. Not been to either in the last year but usually call at one or t'other on our journey back to the ferry to France to stock up with goodies like Hendies, cranberry sauce, Tetley tea bags, Hellmans Mayo etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 8 hours ago, Longcol said: Can't remember seeing charges for parking at the big Tesco's between Spital Hill / Saville Street or the Morrisons at Catcliffe either. Not been to either in the last year but usually call at one or t'other on our journey back to the ferry to France to stock up with goodies like Hendies, cranberry sauce, Tetley tea bags, Hellmans Mayo etc. Spital Hill one has signs up, relatively sure on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffieldForum Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, HeHasRisen said: Spital Hill one has signs up, relatively sure on that Can’t read the details, but there are definitely signs up at Spital Hill. Sheffield Forum | The Sheffield Guide | The Sheffield Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 10 hours ago, The_DADDY said: You reckon we could get SCC to do that for bus gates too? No matter how widely you publicise something, people will claim they never saw it. On bus gates, when the council introduce enforcement at one, they have a period of weeks where they give out warning notices instead of fines, so people who use the route frequently will get a warning. The signs are big and very obvious and have to be compliant with government signing regulations in order to be enforceable. If people want to appeal a fine there’s a regulated process that includes the appeal being heard by a completely independent adjudicator ( a barrister). My experience of adjudicators is that they tend to allow an appeal if there is any reason at all they can find to let the motorist off. Many appeals are successful. The picture on private land parking enforcement is rather different and not a great comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl1 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 12 hours ago, Resident said: You mean these signs? (Circled in red for your convenience). These ones are only the ones visible from Albert Terrace Road. via StreetView. There are equally visible signs from Montgomery Terrace using the same method. If you don't see multiple bright blue signs appear in a car park where previously there weren't any then I wonder if you should be behind the wheel of a car given your observational skills are severely lacking. Also, the image attached was taken in July 2023 so they've been there a good 7 months, dispelling your assertion that it was 'sudden' Unfortunately the signs you show have all been changed (perhaps proving my point) as the restrictions were altered this year with a two hour limit imposed. As I have said regular users are unlikely to have noticed the change . I would argue that the signs at the entrance should not be the standard signs elsewhere in the car park but should be designed to draw attention to the fact the rules have changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffieldForum Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, BigAl1 said: Unfortunately the signs you show have all been changed (perhaps proving my point) as the restrictions were altered this year with a two hour limit imposed. As I have said regular users are unlikely to have noticed the change . I would argue that the signs at the entrance should not be the standard signs elsewhere in the car park but should be designed to draw attention to the fact the rules have changed Those signs (that were there for at least three years, according to Street View) do state maximum 3 hour stay though, not the ‘virtually unlimited’ you originally posted. Not defending Tesco here, by the way — just pointing out that it hasn’t been unlimited time for a very long time. Sheffield Forum | The Sheffield Guide | The Sheffield Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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