Council's Community Buildings Policy Proposals

[Irene Swaine]

22 hours ago, bungleboy69 said:

Maybe you don't. But I like an appropriate, strategic balance of residential, commercial and industrial properties within the city centre... People living in the centre contribute towards a dynamic and lively city, otherwise we just have a souless downtown USA type places that's are quiet after 9pm.

There's no "balance" in it. The city has far too many apartment blocks. More apartment blocks than other building types have been erected in the city centre over the last 5 years. 

 

You mention the USA. Well if you look at Streetview, you will see that central Los Angeles is pretty much what you describe, a ghost town with the odd Starbuck's on the odd street corner. If you aren't around Rodeo Drive, then it's rather desolate. That is what the council in Sheffield seem to be doing. They are approving residential towers that will be of no benefit to tourists or Sheffield residents wanting a day out, to do shopping, drinks and dine. They are condensing everything on to one street, The Moor (like Rodeo Drive in Los Angeles) and letting areas such as Haymarket be swallowed up by giant residential blocks that I haven't seen any evidence there is a demand for. When you make an area heavily residential, it becomes exactly what you describe, "a soulless downtown place that's dead after 9pm".

[Longcol]

8 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

There's no "balance" in it. The city has far too many apartment blocks. More apartment blocks than other building types have been erected in the city centre over the last 5 years. 

 

You mention the USA. Well if you look at Streetview, you will see that central Los Angeles is pretty much what you describe, a ghost town with the odd Starbuck's on the odd street corner. If you aren't around Rodeo Drive, then it's rather desolate. That is what the council in Sheffield seem to be doing. They are approving residential towers that will be of no benefit to tourists or Sheffield residents wanting a day out, to do shopping, drinks and dine. They are condensing everything on to one street, The Moor (like Rodeo Drive in Los Angeles) and letting areas such as Haymarket be swallowed up by giant residential blocks that I haven't seen any evidence there is a demand for. When you make an area heavily residential, it becomes exactly what you describe, "a soulless downtown place that's dead after 9pm".

And yet if you come to cities on the continent you'll nprmally find loads of people living in the centre and life goes on after 9pm.

[Irene Swaine]

4 minutes ago, Longcol said:

And yet if you come to cities on the continent you'll nprmally find loads of people living in the centre and life goes on after 9pm.

And life went on after 9pm on other housing tower blocks, such as Kelvin where TV sets were chucked off the balcony and other such forms of antisocial behaviour took place.

[Longcol]

Just now, Irene Swaine said:

And life went on after 9pm on other housing tower blocks, such as Kelvin where TV sets were chucked off the balcony and other such forms of antisocial behaviour took place.

They're not tower blocks in  most continental city centres. They're usually apartments above shops / offices and anti-social behaviour is pretty minimal. 

 

Are any of the proposed city centre dwellings in Shefffield social housing like Kelvin - which wasn't city centre anyway.

[bassett one]

it will be good if some community centres are run by the community

[Irene Swaine]

1 minute ago, Longcol said:

They're not tower blocks in  most continental city centres. They're usually apartments above shops / offices and anti-social behaviour is pretty minimal. 

 

Are any of the proposed city centre dwellings in Shefffield social housing like Kelvin - which wasn't city centre anyway.

It doesn't matter whether it's social housing or not, when you make an area residential, it becomes undesirable to visitors and can attract trouble. Sothall is mostly private housing yet has endless strings of trouble makers and is certainly not a nice place to be after 9Pm.

[ECCOnoob]

9 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

And life went on after 9pm on other housing tower blocks, such as Kelvin where TV sets were chucked off the balcony and other such forms of antisocial behaviour took place.

How would you know?     Did you have observations of life on Kelvin from within the womb or something.   They were demolished in 1995.   

 

Mrs "28 years old". 

 

 

[Irene Swaine]

1 minute ago, ECCOnoob said:

How would you know?     Did you have observations of life on Kelvin from within the womb or something.   They were demolished in 1995.   

 

Mrs "28 years old". 

 

 

I was born in the summer of 1995 but I know people who lived on there and know what they told me they seen with their own eyes. There is also a lot publicised online about Kelvin and Hyde Park in particular and antisocial behaviour that went on there.

[hackey lad]

3 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

How would you know?     Did you have observations of life on Kelvin from within the womb or something.   They were demolished in 1995.   

 

Mrs "28 years old". 

 

 

You're very angry tonight . Is something troubling you ? 

[Longcol]

3 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

It doesn't matter whether it's social housing or not, when you make an area residential, it becomes undesirable to visitors and can attract trouble. Sothall is mostly private housing yet has endless strings of trouble makers and is certainly not a nice place to be after 9Pm.

Lol - so all Sheffield suburbs (and suburbs  in other cities) are undesirable to visitors........................