'Hate Crimes'

[Prettytom]

16 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

So I take it you agree that the "victim" should get to decide if they have been the subject of a hate crime (or anything else) ?

Similarly you also think the police should be recording "non crime incidents" on people's records ?

I’m not sure how you come to that conclusion from my statement. You are very fond of inventing opinions for other people, then getting all huffy about the opinions that you’ve invented.

 

It’s not a very honest way to debate an issue.

[Chekhov]

11 hours ago, Mkapaka said:

They don’t decide

What’s the role of the CPS in prosecuting hate crime?

The police investigate and obtain evidence to show a crime has been committed.

In hate crime cases this includes gathering evidence that the victim has been targeted because of their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity or because of what the offender believes to be their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity.

 

why don’t you try reading what a hate crime is and how it is dealt with before forming an immediate opinion after watching talk TV. It would be good for you. 

There is no such thing as a hate crime, it's subjective virtue signalling ballcox.

Similarly there is no such thing as a non crime incident, yet more ballcox.

 

Crown Prosecution Service :

 

Deliver justice: we will ensure [sic] that the right people take the right decisions about prosecution at the right time.

 

In hate crime cases this includes gathering evidence that the victim has been targeted because of their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity or because of what the offender believes to be their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity.

 

Words which should not be within a million miles of any courtroom.

[Mkapaka]

41 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

There is no such thing as a hate crime, it's subjective virtue signalling ballcox.

Similarly there is no such thing as a non crime incident, yet more ballcox.

 

Crown Prosecution Service :

 

Deliver justice: we will ensure [sic] that the right people take the right decisions about prosecution at the right time.

 

In hate crime cases this includes gathering evidence that the victim has been targeted because of their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity or because of what the offender believes to be their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity.

 

Words which should not be within a million miles of any courtroom.

And they wouldn’t be - unless the CPS found evidence of it. 

[Chekhov]

On 10/03/2024 at 22:22, Mkapaka said:

>>Chekhov said:
There is no such thing as a hate crime, it's subjective virtue signalling ballcox.

Similarly there is no such thing as a non crime incident, yet more ballcox.

Crown Prosecution Service :

Deliver justice: we will ensure [sic] that the right people take the right decisions about prosecution at the right time.

In hate crime cases this includes gathering evidence that the victim has been targeted because of their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity or because of what the offender believes to be their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and/or transgender identity.<<

 

Words which should not be within a million miles of any courtroom.

And they wouldn’t be - unless the CPS found evidence of it. 

I think you have rather missed the point, evidence of what exactly ?

[Mkapaka]

46 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

I think you have rather missed the point, evidence of what exactly ?

it isn’t me missing the point,
 

Evidence that they had been targeted because of their race for example. 

Edited March 12 by Mkapaka

[Guest]

A quick follow-up on the India Willoughby interview, or rather the fallout from the interview and the appalling behaviour of the interviewer:

 

 

Commentary from Sarah Phillimore, behind a link because mentions the language used by the reporter.

 

The interviewer used to work with Tommy Robinson, and was apparently some sort of alt-right influencer/YouTuber, before signing up with Byline Media.

 

[alchresearch]

This clip was from the Simpsons in 2006.

 

Like many other things they predicted, it came true - particularly the youth and their quickness to shout hate for anything - now common as "cancel culture" and "cultural appropriation"

 

 

[leviathan13]

If a white person takes offence at a comment about a black person but the black person found it funny because they understood the context/joke, can the white person still claim a hate crime despite them not being of the race supposedly being subjected to the hate?

[Chekhov]

3 hours ago, Mkapaka said:

it isn’t me missing the point,
 

Evidence that they had been targeted because of their race for example. 

You are missing the point.

If someone is violently assaulted that's a crime.

If someone is violently assaulted because of their race / sexuality / trans whatever,  that's a crime, exactly the same crime in fact.

[Chekhov]

9 minutes ago, leviathan13 said:

If a white person takes offence at a comment about a black person but the black person found it funny because they understood the context/joke, can the white person still claim a hate crime despite them not being of the race supposedly being subjected to the hate?

This post sums up how ludicrous the whole thing is.

Edited March 12 by Chekhov