'Hate Crimes'

[Al Bundy]

2 hours ago, alchresearch said:

This clip was from the Simpsons in 2006.

 

Like many other things they predicted, it came true - particularly the youth and their quickness to shout hate for anything - now common as "cancel culture" and "cultural appropriation"

 

 

And back then you will have had folk saying " oh don't be a snowflake, it's all nonsense and nothing to be concerned about"

 

 

[Mkapaka]

5 hours ago, Chekhov said:

You are missing the point.

If someone is violently assaulted that's a crime.

If someone is violently assaulted because of their race / sexuality / trans whatever,  that's a crime, exactly the same crime in fact.

You’ve now changed your argument entirely from that victims were deciding if it was a hate crime or not - which was demonstrably untrue - to one about how crimes should be sentenced.

 

that’s a completely different argument - crimes aren’t always dealt with as the same by a court and the wider circumstances might be considered when sentencing.

 

 

 

 

[Mkapaka]

5 hours ago, leviathan13 said:

If a white person takes offence at a comment about a black person but the black person found it funny because they understood the context/joke, can the white person still claim a hate crime despite them not being of the race supposedly being subjected to the hate?

If you read back through my posts on  the thread you’ll find the answer to your question. 
 

The white person could claim whatever they wanted but the CPS would have to consider there was sufficient evidence that a crime had actually occurred in the first instance and then secondly that the crime met the definition of a hate crime.

 

its only  difficult if you work of the premise that anyone can decide if a hate crime has been suffered and they are now a victim - which is a load of rubbish that the op came out with.

 

 

[Mkapaka]

5 hours ago, Chekhov said:

This post sums up how ludicrous the whole thing is.

Wilful ignorance.

Edited March 12 by Mkapaka