Illegal Economic Migrants Fake Conversions To Christianity

[peak4]

2 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Wonder why there’s a cross party inquiry into it , going on then  ?

 

1 hour ago, hackey lad said:

No and no 

 

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

So you have a link to this cross party enquiry?

Yes it's a pain when  folks make claims without evidence, particularly those to complain when others do the same.
I'm guessing this one

Asylum decision-making and conversion to Christianity

Non-inquiry session

 

Only two written submissions thus far
Written evidence submitted by The Archbishops' Council of the Church of England ; which contains the following

Summary
 The Church of England does not set a central policy for supporting asylum claims;
bishops provide leadership and set direction over their dioceses
 Clergy use their wisdom and training to discern the motives of all converts to
Christianity as far as this is possible
 Asylum decisions are for the Home Office and tribunals – evidence from church
members is “not determinative”
 There is no apparent relationship between the numbers of asylum applications and
the number of Church of England adult baptisms
 Asylum seekers can seek baptism through other Christian denominations

 

Written evidence submitted by The Reverend Dr Robert Stephen, General Secretary of the Free Church of England

I have required all Clergy to respond to me on the issues raised under this topic.

There have been no irregular applications for baptism from asylum seekers.

There is one congregation, our Church in Sheffield where we have a Farsi-speaking congregation, where two asylum seekers have been baptised.

They had been members of the congregation in advance of their baptism and have remained regular worshippers since.

They have not requested a reference in support of their application for permission to remain.

I remain convinced that any application would be processed and examined in keeping with the expectations of
the Bishops.

We will review whether written guidance may be required, but

 

 

Edited March 13 by peak4

[peak4]

A far more serious problem might be this one.

Essentially some Muslim prisoners put other vulnerable inmates under pressure to convert to Islam.
Stating the blindingly obvious, these are supposed "Muslim" offenders, who are hardly law abiding citizens themselves, probably acting against their own religious teachings, and thus not representative of the UK Muslim population as a whole.
Muslim gangs tell inmates 'convert or get hurt' and offer 'protection' to new prisoners if they take up Islam    LBC though there are plenty of other sources.

Colin Bloom, the report's author, said: "Failure to identify as a Muslim meant that at best the new prisoner would be denied 'protection' from the dominant Muslim gang on that wing, or at worst the new prisoner would be subjected to violence and intimidation from that same gang."

But he also said the Government needed to "redouble" its efforts to "reinforce the distinctions between extremist Islamism and Islam and between Islamist extremists and Muslims".

 

Our government, and some commentators of this forum, should perhaps heed the last sentence that I've emboldened above.

 

It strikes me that this is as much about local gangs as the religion of the offenders.

This also distorts some surveys on the number of Muslim offenders in our judicial system.

i.e.  a certain proportion weren't Muslim when they offended, but now claim to be, and thus show up as Muslim criminals and skew the figures.

[prince al]

No more illegals.

[El Cid]

8 hours ago, Delayed said:

 

A person's claimed religion is not the deciding factor for asylum cases and certainly a baptismal certificate is in no way evidence of someone's belief in Christianity. 

A 24-year-old Palestinian citizen of Israel is to be granted asylum by the Home Office on the basis that he has a well-founded fear of persecution if returned to Israel.

The Home Office has now accepted that any Palestinian returning to Israel would fear persecution and would be granted asylum!

[Thorpist]

“ Abetter  and more trustworthy news source would serve you better.”

looking for assistance here what is considered a trustworthy news source?

All news sources have their own agenda , picking the nuggets of truth out  any of  them is difficult.

Personally kicking foreign law breakers out of the Country would be high on my priority list.

We have enough Uk born criminals to sort out with others.

[Delayed]

9 minutes ago, El Cid said:

A 24-year-old Palestinian citizen of Israel is to be granted asylum by the Home Office on the basis that he has a well-founded fear of persecution if returned to Israel.

The Home Office has now accepted that any Palestinian returning to Israel would fear persecution and would be granted asylum!

Link please 

[crookesey]

How does a disclexic, agnostic, insomniac who can’t sleep for wondering if there really is a dog stand in all this? 

[Al Bundy]

10 hours ago, Delayed said:

We do but people don't want to hear about helping the needy. A good mouth foaming story sells. 

AKA , having concerns about immigration.

 

 

[Al Bundy]

1 hour ago, El Cid said:

A 24-year-old Palestinian citizen of Israel is to be granted asylum by the Home Office on the basis that he has a well-founded fear of persecution if returned to Israel.

The Home Office has now accepted that any Palestinian returning to Israel would fear persecution and would be granted asylum!

You would think that those welcoming immigrants from Muslim countries would be concerned about their attitudes towards homosexuality and women's rights, but obviously they don't care about stuff like that because it doesn't suit their brainwashed narrative.

 

Must be a real brain cluster for them.

Edited March 13 by Al Bundy

[cressida]

3 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

You would think that those welcoming immigrants from Muslim countries would be concerned about their attitudes towards homosexuality and women's rights, but obviously they don't care about stuff like that because it doesn't suit their brainwashed narrative.

 

Must be a real brain cluster for them.

So will they continue their political revenge agenda from here, and if so will that be good for our country?