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1 minute ago, The_DADDY said:

The internet is a wonderful thing.

Unfortunately the downside is it allows Neanderthals to voice their 'opinions' for all to see.

There’s a quote from (one of the greatest screenwriters of all time) Aaron Sorkin that I’m often reminded of (even by some in this thread):

 

I am all for everyone having a voice; I just don't think everyone has earned the microphone. And that's what the Internet has done.

 

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4 minutes ago, SheffieldForum said:

There’s a quote from (one of the greatest screenwriters of all time) Aaron Sorkin that I’m often reminded of (even by some in this thread):

 

I am all for everyone having a voice; I just don't think everyone has earned the microphone. And that's what the Internet has done.

 

I think that sums it up perfectly. 

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16 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

How very odd that you tend to focus on me , rather that what I post .

But I wasn’t focusing on you. I was focusing upon your initial reply to Peak’s post. A response directed at the content of your post, not at you personally.

 

Your second response was a huge improvement, thankfully.

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7 minutes ago, Prettytom said:

But I wasn’t focusing on you. I was focusing upon your initial reply to Peak’s post. A response directed at the content of your post, not at you personally.

 

Your second response was a huge improvement, thankfully.

You responded to my post saying it was just semantics , like that's ok for some .

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5 hours ago, Al Bundy said:

I am guessing they have solved all the serious crimes like murders, stabbings, rapes, assaults etc.

I think they should be applauded for that.

This is one of the funniest post I have read on SF, every time I re-read it I **** myself.

It's the second line which sends me over the edge.....

Biting satire if ever there was some.

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26 minutes ago, SheffieldForum said:

There’s a quote from (one of the greatest screenwriters of all time) Aaron Sorkin that I’m often reminded of (even by some in this thread):

 

I am all for everyone having a voice; I just don't think everyone has earned the microphone. And that's what the Internet has done.

 

One of my work colleagues thinks that "social media" and the internet is promoting all this mad OTT cobblers.

Before the internet someone who, say, thought cats could talk, would just wonder if he was losing his marbles. 

But now the internet and social media will bring all the nutters together, and they now think they must be right.....

At the moment the aspect it is most effective at amplifying is the trans sexual debate. Let's face it trans sexuals are tiny percentage of the population, yet from the amount of hot air generated by internet on it you'd think every man and his dog was changing sex.

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4 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

One of my work colleagues thinks that "social media" and the internet is promoting all this mad OTT cobblers.

Before the internet someone who, say, thought cats could talk, would just wonder if he was losing his marbles. 

But now the internet and social media will bring all the nutters together, and they now think they must be right.....

At the moment the aspect it is most effective at amplifying is the trans sexual debate. Let's face it trans sexuals are tiny percentage of the population, yet from the amount of hot air generated by internet on it you'd think every man and his dog was changing sex.

Indeed. It is a big factor in this stuff.

 

Like the proliferation of Covid deniers/conspiracy theorists, the attempted US insurrection and factions of people who think it appropriate to deny that obviously racist remarks weren’t racist.

 

The internet and social media has a lot to answer for.

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21 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

One of my work colleagues thinks that "social media" and the internet is promoting all this mad OTT cobblers.

Before the internet someone who, say, thought cats could talk, would just wonder if he was losing his marbles. 

But now the internet and social media will bring all the nutters together, and they now think they must be right.....

At the moment the aspect it is most effective at amplifying is the trans sexual debate. Let's face it trans sexuals are tiny percentage of the population, yet from the amount of hot air generated by internet on it you'd think every man and his dog was changing sex.

It's not a topic I follow hugely, as I'm not part of that tiny community, but on that one we are largely in agreement.

Much of this is due to activism by very rich people in The US, 

 

Check out such as The Heritage Foundation, and The American Principles Project amongst others. Also a very useful topic in the promotion of culture wars, to divide society,  as a means of mobilising public votes.

The Shadowy Right-Wing Think Tank Pushing Transphobia  The New Republic
The American Principles Project has lost election after election but its influence in the GOP is still growing.

The APP’s monomaniacal focus on gender began in 2019, when the organization launched its first anti-trans political campaign late in Kentucky’s gubernatorial race.

Despite trans issues playing no part in the campaign to that point, the group released ads introducing a new attack line, accusing Democratic candidate Andy Beshear of wanting “boys to compete against girls in girls’ sports.”

Beshear called the ad campaign “a shameful and false attack from a shady group that will lead to bullying of our kids”—and ended up winning by just over 5,000 votes.

 

How a Campaign Against Transgender Rights Mobilized Conservatives   New York Times
Defeated on same-sex marriage, the religious right went searching for an issue that would re-energize supporters and donors. The campaign that followed has stunned political leaders across the spectrum.

When the Supreme Court declared a constitutional right to same-sex marriage nearly eight years ago, social conservatives were set adrift.
The ruling stripped them of an issue they had used to galvanize rank-and-file supporters and big donors. And it left them searching for a cause that — like opposing gay marriage — would rally the base and raise the movement’s profile on the national stage.
“We knew we needed to find an issue that the candidates were comfortable talking about,” said Terry Schilling, the president of American Principles Project, a social conservative advocacy group. “And we threw everything at the wall.”

 

The Anti-Trans Movement Framework   The Commons Social Change Library

Introduction
Trans lives are under attack. In the last five years we have seen a rapid escalation in campaigns to erode our rights, block our access to health care, and exclude us from accessing public facilities and services that align with our gender. The UK and large parts of the US are now openly hostile to the trans community with hundreds of anti-trans bills being tabled across states in the US, and systematic attacks on the institutions and services that support the trans community.

Often the media, LGBTIQ+ communities, and advocacy organisations discuss these issues as escalating transphobia. But it’s important that activists and allies understand that this wave of attacks is not an accident or simply backlash. It is the result of an organised and well-funded anti-trans movement that has intentionally fuelled and weaponised anti-trans hate to achieve their social and political goals.

 

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