El Cid Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 9 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: Its not in recession. Public services are not 'starved of funding'. The NHS and Social Care Budget was higher than last year reaching over £153 billion, NHS staff numbers are up to 1.7 million employees, Police workforce has increased by 19%, we still have universal healthcare (despite that evil privatisation). We were in a recession, Government funding for public services is lower now than in 2010, certainly taking into account inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Not a graph covering the whole timeframe, but you get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabrielC Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: Its not in recession. In fact economic analysts are forecasting that there will be some modest growth boosted by a faster than expected lowering of inflation and interest rates cut. I think many WOULD disagree that things are blanket 'in decline and getting worse'. Despite still dealing with the impact of covid and global conflict, minimum wage increased, pensions increased, state benefits increased... Public services are not 'starved of funding'. The NHS and Social Care Budget was higher than last year reaching over £153 billion, NHS staff numbers are up to 1.7 million employees, Police workforce has increased by 19%, we still have universal healthcare (despite that evil privatisation). Our infrastructure is not all crumbling and in need of major repair. Yes, SOME of it needs improvement but last time I checked the lights are still on, the water is still flowing, the transport is still running, the roads are still busy , the internet is still connected, the schools are still functioning, the shops are still stocked and people are getting on with their lives. There has always been a measurable divide with the South East. Its where our capital is. Its where most investment wants to be. Its population is 2.2x the size of say Yorkshire and North East, over 3x the size of Scotland and over 5x the size of Wales. That isnt going to change anytime soon. The shortage of doctors is being felt in nations across the word right now. Its partly the reason why Australia and New Zealand are taking drastic measures to lure Brits abroad. Recruitment is still being made a priority but there are other factors when it comes to retention. The obvious one being that its hard for state funded NHS doctors to compete with the lure of private practice despite ever spiralling pay rises for public sector employees. Medical degrees are very long to complete and expensive compared to other occupations. There is a higher ratio of early retirement and pressures on trickle down skill sharing compared to other industries. Its not just here, in France they have shortages with some estimated 7m people who dont have ready access to a GP. There are recruitment issues in Greece, Finland, Portugal and several African and Eastern nations are reported to be at critical levels. Handing out degrees to all and sundry is a slight overreaction. Besides, just because someone trains to be a lawyer, doctor, nurse, social worker, engineer doesnt automatically mean they become one. Yes, you could (and probably will) go on. Yes we do get the picture. You are a constant doom monger who always seems to portray that everything can magically be solved by your precious Labour Party and lots of state ownership. The last quarters of 2023 saw people spending fall due to the higher cost of living people can not spend money they don't have hence the economy stops growing it can only grow with people spending and good trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, GabrielC said: The last quarters of 2023 saw people spending fall due to the higher cost of living people can not spend money they don't have hence the economy stops growing it can only grow with people spending and good trade. The Government tried to make the economy grow by encouraging 745,000 net immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Adults economically inactive due to ill-health rose from 2.1m in July 2019 to a peak of 2.8m in October 2023, said the Resolution Foundation. The rise in long-term sickness leaves the UK as the only G7 economy not to have returned to its pre-pandemic employment rate, according to the Foundation. 0.7 million people not working due to the length of the NHS waiting list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 From the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68639144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 4 hours ago, El Cid said: Adults economically inactive due to ill-health rose from 2.1m in July 2019 to a peak of 2.8m in October 2023, said the Resolution Foundation. The rise in long-term sickness leaves the UK as the only G7 economy not to have returned to its pre-pandemic employment rate, according to the Foundation. 0.7 million people not working due to the length of the NHS waiting list? It's partly due to long waiting lists I'm sure, but also debilitating long covid (which is a very real thing) and other side effects will be taking their toll both physically and mentally. This is going to cause huge problems as it is difficult to prove to the satisfaction of the DWP. But that doesn't mean it is of no consequence, or that people are scamming. Some will literally be unable to get out of bed with fatigue and in no fit state to work. I also think disillusionment and Depression is becoming endemic in the population (IMO) and that's not helping either... , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, Anna B said: It's partly due to long waiting lists I'm sure, but also debilitating long covid (which is a very real thing) and other side effects will be taking their toll both physically and mentally. This is going to cause huge problems as it is difficult to prove to the satisfaction of the DWP. But that doesn't mean it is of no consequence, or that people are scamming. Some will literally be unable to get out of bed with fatigue and in no fit state to work. I also think disillusionment and Depression is becoming endemic in the population (IMO) and that's not helping either... You are saying its partly long COVID, but other countries had COVID and there workforce is now back at pre-COVID levels. We could have had more cases of COVID than other countries, but enough to have an effect on the workforce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 🤣🤣🤣 Long covid 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Apparently people with Long Covid are 25% more likely to be unemployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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