Nett Zero Madness #379 : Wooden Houses Are Potentially Lower Maintenance.

[Chekhov]

14 hours ago, Prettytom said:

Well, not you for a start.

You appear to have plenty of opinions.

And quite a lot of anecdotes about imaginary  people who agree with everything that you say.

But, expertise, not so much

I know quite a bit about galvansing actually, and stainless steel.

From personal experience, as well as reading around, I know quite a bit about wood rotting.....

But I note nobody has disputed what I have said : a brick built house with a pitched slate roof will out last any wooden house, and certainly need far less maintenance.

[Mkapaka]

On 23/03/2024 at 08:56, Chekhov said:

>"The timber frame itself is normally "guaranteed" by the manufacturer for various periods ranging from 10 to 40 years.<<

 

40 years, is that all !

My shop is 120 years old and may well still be up in another century ! !

That’s a guarantee. How much guarantee do you think you get on a new build brick house?

You would do well to get more than one.

 

I think it’s a valid question as to  how they could be cheaper to maintain - I suppose it’s what part of maintaining the building is being referred to.

 

but if they can be as easy to maintain I don’t understand why you’re so furious about the whole thing. 

 

 

[Mkapaka]

Just now, Mkapaka said:

That’s a guarantee. How much guarantee do you think you get on a new build brick house?

You would do well to get more than one.

 

I think it’s a valid question as to  how they could be cheaper to maintain - I suppose it’s what part of maintaining the building is being referred to.

 

but if they can be as easy to maintain I don’t understand why you’re so furious about the whole thing. 

 

 

Can’t edit but should have read “more than ten”.

[spilldig]

On 23/03/2024 at 10:00, Prettytom said:

I’ve just had all of my slates removed and replaced with modern tiles. Same sort of age as yours, but ready for replacement.

 

If anyone wants any free slates, get in touch😁

Might be worth selling them, they can fetch quite a bit these days,

[Chekhov]

1 hour ago, Mkapaka said:

That’s a guarantee. How much guarantee do you think you get on a new build brick house?
You would do well to get more than one.

I think it’s a valid question as to  how they could be cheaper to maintain - I suppose it’s what part of maintaining the building is being referred to.

but if they can be as easy to maintain I don’t understand why you’re so furious about the whole thing. 

I am not "furious", but I am frustrated about how truth is "blurred" (or ignored outright) when it comes to encouraging attempts to get to "nett zero". People should not sleep walk into buying a wooden house.....

 

>>but if they can be as easy to maintain<<

 

I do not see how a wooden house could possibly be easier to maintain than a brick built house, even more so as it would almost certainly be constructed in soft wood

[Chekhov]

27 minutes ago, spilldig said:

Might be worth selling them, they can fetch quite a bit these days,

Most of the Welsh slates off my shop were knackered. The advantage of slates is they can move relative to each other thus limiting thermal stress, but that constant movement, also caused by the wind, wears them out. The holes where the nails went through were enlarged shall we say.

[Anna B]

19 hours ago, Chekhov said:

But you cannot get away from basic facts, wood rots (esp soft wood) and steel rusts ! Even galvanised steel rusts eventually, "pre galvanised" steel quicker than "hot dipped". Stainless does not rust (particularly marine grade), but it is very expensive and is not used that much for that reason.

Furthermore rubber seals eventually perish or start leaking as they harden up in the sun.

Yet there are still wood framed houses from Tudor times more than 500 years old...

Modern timber frames are usually on the inside of the dwelling so not exposed to weather and water etc.

 

It's also worth remembering that most skyscrapers are steel framed prefabricated buildings. 

[Chekhov]

2 hours ago, Anna B said:

Yet there are still wood framed houses from Tudor times more than 500 years old...

Modern timber frames are usually on the inside of the dwelling so not exposed to weather and water etc.

 

It's also worth remembering that most skyscrapers are steel framed prefabricated buildings. 

>>wood framed houses from Tudor times more than 500 years old...<<

 

That's oak, not the softwood they'd be using these days

 

>>It's also worth remembering that most skyscrapers are steel framed prefabricated buildings.<<

 

Exactly, they aren't made of wood !

[Mkapaka]

3 hours ago, Chekhov said:

I am not "furious", but I am frustrated about how truth is "blurred" (or ignored outright) when it comes to encouraging attempts to get to "nett zero". People should not sleep walk into buying a wooden house.....

 

>>but if they can be as easy to maintain<<

 

I do not see how a wooden house could possibly be easier to maintain than a brick built house, even more so as it would almost certainly be constructed in soft wood

Do some basic research then. And you might feel less frustrated. 

[hackey lad]

Very random .