BigPP Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: Nice deflection there. We were talking about funding until you changed the subject when you got caught out talking out of your backside. You want to talk about funding? Here you are: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, BigPP said: You want to talk about funding? Here you are: Good. It's called balancing the books. Something which Labour continually seem to fail at. How much of that big budget in the Labour years was being instantly swallowed up to pay off massive debts created through their inflated and expanded PFI builds. What about the 191% increase in public sector debt which they created during the Blair and Brown terms. What about Gordon selling our gold off for an estimated £7 billion less than it could have been worth. What about Blair's spectacular NHS computerisation failures leaving them with a bill of an estimated £26 billion. What about the Labour-controlled Welsh NHS with its three failing Health boards and several sectors being inspected and marked as serious concerns. "The NHS will only ever be safe in Labour hands" you said. I say again, you're burying your head in the sand. Edited April 28 by ECCOnoob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 minute ago, ECCOnoob said: Good. It's called balancing the books. Something which Labour continually seem to fail at. How much of that big budget in the Labour years was being instantly swallowed up to pay off massive debts created through their inflated and expanded PFI builds. What about the 191% increase in public sector debt which they created during the Blair and Brown terms. What about Gordon selling our gold off for an estimated £7 billion less than it could have been worth. What about Blair's spectacular NHS computerisation failures leaving them with a bill of an estimated £26 billion. What about the Labour-controlled Welsh NHS with its three failing Health boards and several sectors being inspected and marked as serious concerns. "The NHS will only ever be safe in Labour hands" you said. I say again, you're burying your head in the sand. Any talk of Wales under Labour is not allowed , or ignored . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPP Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 14 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: Good. It's called balancing the books. Something which Labour continually seem to fail at. How much of that big budget in the Labour years was being instantly swallowed up to pay off massive debts created through their inflated and expanded PFI builds. What about the 191% increase in public sector debt which they created during the Blair and Brown terms. What about Gordon selling our gold off for an estimated £7 billion less than it could have been worth. What about Blair's spectacular NHS computerisation failures leaving them with a bill of an estimated £26 billion. What about the Labour-controlled Welsh NHS with its three failing Health boards and several sectors being inspected and marked as serious concerns. "The NHS will only ever be safe in Labour hands" you said. I say again, you're burying your head in the sand. Let me remind you what balancing the books means for patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 35 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: What about the 191% increase in public sector debt which they created during the Blair and Brown terms. How much are we in debt now, under the Tories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz678 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 13 minutes ago, El Cid said: How much are we in debt now, under the Tories? We will never know the truth all liars there's not a straight politician on this earth ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 49 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Any talk of Wales under Labour is not allowed , or ignored . One of the mob you’re a ‘proud supporter’ of as done one and defected. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/28/mp-dan-poulter-defection-reflects-disillusionment-of-tory-voters-says-wes-streeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz678 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 2 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: One of the mob you’re a ‘proud supporter’ of as done one and defected. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/28/mp-dan-poulter-defection-reflects-disillusionment-of-tory-voters-says-wes-streeting They know labour's going to win the next election all he's doing is looking after his income .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 hour ago, BigPP said: Let me remind you what balancing the books means for patients. So? Waiting lists are only one tiny part of running the organisation. Patients as a collective are dumb. Patients are fantasists. Patients only care about themselves. Patients think the word revolves around them. Patients are demanding. Patients are unrealistic. Patients expect Rolls-Royce service four bus ticket prices. 1 hour ago, El Cid said: How much are we in debt now, under the Tories? The OBR records that the spending deficit is about half of what it was since Labour were last in power. Same with public sector borrowing which is actually on a decline as in 2009 it was at 11% of GDP. It's now down to just over 4%. Rachel Reeves already tried to make lots of noise about Tory government economic handling but full fact proved her wrong on several occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak4 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 58 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: One of the mob you’re a ‘proud supporter’ of as done one and defected. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/28/mp-dan-poulter-defection-reflects-disillusionment-of-tory-voters-says-wes-streeting 54 minutes ago, gaz678 said: They know labour's going to win the next election all he's doing is looking after his income .... Hmm, I must admit, I thought he wasn't re-standing at the next election; watch this space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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