General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

[Beechwood_S6]

1 hour ago, altus said:

 

That's a short and frayed straw your clutching at to present such false equivalence. The issue is using insider information to pace bets.

As its the General Election 2024: July 4th thread.

all points are surely valid, especially noting that the  gambling industries  are schmoozing/grooming those who are soon to be in charge, maybe it's to Win some advantages down the line.

[Wing Commander]

14 minutes ago, m williamson said:

I haven't been following this thread,  or the betting scandal in there entirety, so apologies if this has been answered previously. 

How did suspicions arise about the bets being the result of inside knowledge?  Surely the people involved being in the position they are did not place the bets using their own names?

Betting with insider knowledge is illegal, but if they got a friend ( presuming they have friends ) to place the bet on their behalf how was it traced back to them?

 

The people involved in government over quite a few years now have not been particularly impressive but surely they can't have been that utterly stupid that they placed the bets themselves? 

 

 

Suspicion arises if all of a sudden numerous bets are placed on an individual event.  It has to be assumed those who are under suspicion placed their bets online meaning their identity is exposed because of a financial transaction.  I'm assuming the people involved didn't think what they were doing would become a serious matter and be the main topic of discussion in the election campaign.

[El Cid]

I believe that the Reform vote will mainly take votes from the Conservatives. But there is a lot of people on Facebook, just stating 'vote Reform' maybe they could do better than we think.

Their social media campaign is certainly good, but the policies are a nightmare.

[peak4]

1 hour ago, m williamson said:

I haven't been following this thread,  or the betting scandal in there entirety, so apologies if this has been answered previously. 

How did suspicions arise about the bets being the result of inside knowledge?  Surely the people involved being in the position they are did not place the bets using their own names?

Betting with insider knowledge is illegal, but if they got a friend ( presuming they have friends ) to place the bet on their behalf how was it traced back to them?

The people involved in government over quite a few years now have not been particularly impressive but surely they can't have been that utterly stupid that they placed the bets themselves? 

I don't have time to search for the links to back this up now, but as I recall , it was the betting company themselves who correctly flagged to The Gambling Commission that a "Politically Exposed Person" had used their own bank account to place a bet on the forthcoming election. Further investigations followed by The Gambling Commission into other PEPs, which is ongoing.

The prevention of money laundering and combating the financing of terrorism
Gambling Commission guidance for remote and non-remote casinos: Fifth edition (Revision 3).

ContentsPart 6 - Customer due diligence14 - Politically exposed persons (PEPs)
14 - Politically exposed persons (PEPs)

[Al Bundy]

21 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

Nowt, I was just fishing for something and you’ve took the bait bigtime. 

There it is.

 

Your sole reason for being on here.

 

Bullies always remain bullies.

[m williamson]

1 hour ago, Wing Commander said:

Suspicion arises if all of a sudden numerous bets are placed on an individual event.  It has to be assumed those who are under suspicion placed their bets online meaning their identity is exposed because of a financial transaction.  I'm assuming the people involved didn't think what they were doing would become a serious matter and be the main topic of discussion in the election campaign.

 

If they didn't think that then they aren't very bright are they? In an election every party throws whatever negatives they can at the opposition. Providing the opposition with obvious ammunition is beyond ridiculous, it's moronic.  

 

And these clowns have been involved in providing advice for running the country!

[m williamson]

26 minutes ago, peak4 said:

I don't have time to search for the links to back this up now, but as I recall , it was the betting company themselves who correctly flagged to The Gambling Commission that a "Politically Exposed Person" had used their own bank account to place a bet on the forthcoming election. Further investigations followed by The Gambling Commission into other PEPs, which is ongoing.

The prevention of money laundering and combating the financing of terrorism
Gambling Commission guidance for remote and non-remote casinos: Fifth edition (Revision 3).

ContentsPart 6 - Customer due diligence14 - Politically exposed persons (PEPs)
14 - Politically exposed persons (PEPs)

 

Gambling establishments are there to make money, which invariably they do because the punter can't come out on top otherwise the business couldn't operate.

Anyone with a ha'porth of sense knows that, they use every technology available to them to ensure that no punter ever gets an even break.

The people who have been caught out on this shouldn't be let out without a carer, never mind being involved in governing the country.

[Prettytom]

4 hours ago, El Cid said:

I believe that the Reform vote will mainly take votes from the Conservatives. But there is a lot of people on Facebook, just stating 'vote Reform' maybe they could do better than we think.

Their social media campaign is certainly good, but the policies are a nightmare.

 

Their policies are infantile and simply don’t stand up to scrutiny. They aren’t a serious party.

 

Expect them to get dissected by the media in the next ten days.

 

I think that the Conservatives will comfortably beat Reform in the election,  because lots of their voters won’t vote Reform when push comes to shove.
 

Reform will damage the Tory vote sufficiently for Labour to get a comfortable majority, but not the massive one that the polls suggest.

[Mister M]

Now here's a Tory I agree with:

 

Tories are a ‘shower of ****’, says Conservative candidate James Cracknell | General election 2024 | The Guardian

[hackey lad]

21 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Now here's a Tory I agree with:

 

Tories are a ‘shower of ****’, says Conservative candidate James Cracknell | General election 2024 | The Guardian

He doesn’t actually say that  but carry on