General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

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17 minutes ago, Padders said:

Slinny, this country is in a mess, it will take the best part of 10 years to get it back on track.

14 years of Tory rule as seen to that...

Call me cynical but;
Sunak and Hunt plot pre-election spending trap for Labour  iNews via Archive.ph
Tory Government may set out amount of money available for next spending review before the election - but hold back from allocating it in detail

Ministers to time UK blood scandal payouts to avoid jeopardising pre-election tax cuts   FT via archive.ph
Delay of inquiry’s final report means the compensation scheme would not be ‘scored’ in chancellor’s next Budget

The Tories did seem to try to recover from Trussonomics to a certain extent, but this article refers mainly to the economy, rather than the effect of previous austerity on the actual citizens;

Tories did not lay waste the economy, but the myth suits Labour’s campaign message   Larry Elliott Grauniad

Labour will win by a mile but is coming to power at the worst possible moment.

The economy has been laid waste by the Conservatives, who have deployed a scorched earth policy that will ensure the incoming government has the inheritance from hell.

That, at least, is the conventional wisdom, a view that Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves have done nothing to counter.

There is a reason for that. It suits Labour’s campaign message to paint the blackest possible picture so that it can blame the Tories for any tough decisions they have to make.

Even so, the conventional wisdom is wrong. Without in any way minimising the challenges Starmer and Reeves face, this is actually not a bad time to be arriving in office.

[Slinny]

1 hour ago, Slinny said:

They will try very hard to make Joe  pubic , think other wise  Strange how they fall for it But look how they fell for Johnson ? 

They did not think off people in this country only a chosen few,  Did the conservative last time voters think Hunt was making every thing private for most off  the general. Public . NO   CHANCE  .   People move up the property ladder and think their political  status have changed  How ?  Let’s hope for the sake off this  country  they don’t fall for the three card trick again  Same in USA don’t let  a lying cheating man like TRUM P get in power. again , He is dangerous .

[ECCOnoob]

1 hour ago, Slinny said:

They did not think off people in this country only a chosen few,  Did the conservative last time voters think Hunt was making every thing private for most off  the general. Public . NO   CHANCE  .   People move up the property ladder and think their political  status have changed  How ?  Let’s hope for the sake off this  country  they don’t fall for the three card trick again  Same in USA don’t let  a lying cheating man like TRUM P get in power. again , He is dangerous .

 

Are the general public not shareholders in companies?  Do they not rely on jobs and income from the business and operations of their private company employers who need to be making profit in order to sustain themselves and keep offering such employment?  Do the general public not have savings and investments based on that private sector companies being profitable and contributing to the  economy? Do the general public not rely on pensions which are all balanced with good performing economies?  Do the general not happily take advantage of competition, access to a global marketplace, price differentials, open supply and our country's performance on the global stage? 

 

Yeah yeah. blah blah blah. The public sector is all sooo wonderful except of course when  it runs out of other people's money to spend. 

[Slinny]

34 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

 

Are the general public not shareholders in companies?  Do they not rely on jobs and income from the business and operations of their private company employers who need to be making profit in order to sustain themselves and keep offering such employment?  Do the general public not have savings and investments based on that private sector companies being profitable and contributing to the  economy? Do the general public not rely on pensions which are all balanced with good performing economies?  Do the general not happily take advantage of competition, access to a global marketplace, price differentials, open supply and our country's performance on the global stage? 

 

Yeah yeah. blah blah blah. The public sector is all sooo wonderful except of course when  it runs out of other people's money to spend. 

We know we have to have some private companies But not such as Water gas’s  heigh ways Railways Bus companies . And why cut the councils money by 40 per cent  ,cut police  spend millions and millions on that dud Rewanda idea   Billions wasted on  covid  materials   You vote for your beloved Conservative Party  , Not for Me , 
 

[El Cid]

16 hours ago, Slinny said:

We know we have to have some private companies But not such as Water gas’s  heigh ways Railways Bus companies . And why cut the councils money by 40 per cent  ,cut police  spend millions and millions on that dud Rewanda idea   Billions wasted on  covid  materials   You vote for your beloved Conservative Party  , Not for Me , 
 

 

Private companies or publically owned companies can both work, it's marginal which is best.

Our waterways are poor because of the lack of regulation from the Environment Agency, poor waterways because of lack of regulation, not because it's a pubically run organisation.

The Conservatives have an ideological dogma of low regulation, we need more housing and that was held up by polluted rivers.

[Slinny]

3 hours ago, El Cid said:

 

Private companies or publically owned companies can both work, it's marginal which is best.

Our waterways are poor because of the lack of regulation from the Environment Agency, poor waterways because of lack of regulation, not because it's a pubically run organisation.

The Conservatives have an ideological dogma of low regulation, we need more housing and that was held up by polluted rivers.

Well the general public was not convinced on voting day were they  E 

[The_DADDY]

Drivers across the UK are concerned about rising motoring costs with a new pay-per-mile car tax bill update likely to escalate the issue.

Motorists are under “financial pressure” to ditch their cars amid growing financial worries just as a new pay-per-mile car tax charge could be on the horizon.

Aidan Rushby, founder and CEO of car finance firm Carmoola, found the cost of living crisis was having a “significant impact” on motorists with millions axing vehicles to save money.

 

According to the analysis, younger road users and motorists under the age of 44 have been most affected with many turning their backs on car ownership.

Many have already reduced the amount of miles they travel in a desperate bid to bring down their bills.

 

It shows drivers across the UK are already struggling to stay afloat and keep their vehicles on the road with extra charges set to pile more pressure on individuals. 

Aidan said: “We discovered that the cost of living crisis is having a significant impact on UK drivers, with eight million cars (20 percent) potentially being sold due to escalating running costs."

"The results were alarming, with nearly a third (29 percent) of Brits reporting that they have reduced their driving in 2024.

 

“Gen Z and older Millennial drivers have been hardest hit, with almost a third (30 percent) of 17 to 24-year-olds and a quarter (25 percent) of 35 to 44-year-olds indicating that they are under financial pressure to sell their cars.”

 

I think it's fair to say there is an inevitably about road pricing. We all know its coming. 

 

Your thoughts?

 

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1939241/drivers-sell-car-labour-pay-per-mile-tax/amp?fbclid=IwY2xjawE5sxxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHaQuiMn-ougL6dgn1JoL4KB4icDi9OuWNNGWH-5dBOQk99aDhH2tnhxt4A_aem_C6Isu1ilpiWIdbleFBCquw#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17246734625994&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

[lavery549@yahoo]

Oh for goodness sake , what will this numpty come up with next . He is a damn liability 

[Mister Gee]

8 minutes ago, lavery549@yahoo said:

Oh for goodness sake , what will this numpty come up with next . He is a damn liability 

That’s a bit harsh on The_Daddy. 

[Mister M]

I must commend the Government on the swiftness of action in alienating people. 

Already, right wing jerks are ringing up radio stations demanding to know why the Government haven't "stopped the boat people yet", and they are now responsible for driving people off the road!

Very impressive.