General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

[Beechwood_S6]

24 minutes ago, Cyclunt said:

It's very clear that the popularity of votes for Labour show a very clear indication that the general public shouldn't be allowed to operate a pencil sharpener. Too many fools living in the past, expecting a Labour government to "turn things around".

Ha!!! What a load of old cobblers. They are exactly the same as the tories, just a different colour tie.

Fools!! 😆

roll on another right wing Blairish..government

 

not sure about Starmer boasting about changing the Labour party permanently, I'm sure when he feels those metaphorical knives in the back.

roll on the treachery and betrayal from his enemies within the labour party / unions

[butlers]

 

[cressida]

40 minutes ago, Cyclunt said:

It's very clear that the popularity of votes for Labour show a very clear indication that the general public shouldn't be allowed to operate a pencil sharpener. Too many fools living in the past, expecting a Labour government to "turn things around".

Ha!!! What a load of old cobblers. They are exactly the same as the tories, just a different colour tie.

Fools!! 😆

That's right.

[hackey lad]

3 hours ago, BigPP said:

 

Yes, he's back!

 

😂

[cressida]

Looks more like Jeremy Clarkson imo.

[hackey lad]

25 minutes ago, Wing Commander said:

They are predicting when both Labour and Conservative votes are added together  the total will only be just over 50% of the electorate.  Labour's share of the vote will be the lowest ever for a party that wins the general election.  It's going to be a default win for Labour.

But still a win.

[El Cid]

18 minutes ago, butlers said:

 

 

That is interesting, but a load of tosh.

In the 2019 the Tories got 43% and not the 30% mentioned.

[ECCOnoob]

Nothing is going to change anything because it's the same process round and round and round. 

 

The same nailing of colours to the mast. The same over simplistic red versus blue. 

 

The great Labour will get in filled with their deluded promises about how they're going to transform everything, give great improvements and kiss everyone better....

 

... The opposition will blindly block, attack, belittle, criticise, challenge all and everything that tries to be done...

 

... The media will pick their side and stick to them rigidly entirely dependant on whichever one they feel will attract the most readership or viewership to their publications...

 

...The fickle public will continue twittering on giving their ill informed opinions all over the internet forums and in discussions, gullibly falling for the snappy sound bites and headlines, failing to actually give a toss or take time to properly understand, read, study, digest, participate, watch nor care  about issues (unless some newspaper tells them they should care)...

 

Then after 5 years when nothing has really changed and Labour becomes public enemy number one we go through the whole process again. The Torys come back in with their own great promises of how they're going to fix the economy, make everything better, do great investment....

 

Round and around it will go.

 

Oversimplistic tribal warfare because nobody really cares enough.  Simple fact which can never go away is that politics for the ordinary masses is boring, complicated, time consuming and unglamorous.   People just have better things to be doing with their lives than watching parliamentary debates or giving enough tosa to watch the news every now and then or actually engage in their political system. 

 

Nobody ever choosing to rise above the whole red v blue and make a proper informed choice on the candidate they really think best represents their constituency irrelevant of party or colour or allegiance.

 

Moronic tribal warfare every election time.

 

People want real change.  Let's start with stopping that.

Edited July 3 by ECCOnoob

[hackey lad]

27 minutes ago, butlers said:

 

Holy smoke. That voice 

[cressida]

11 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

Nothing is going to change anything because it's the same process round and round and round. 

 

The same nailing of colours to the mast. The same over simplistic red versus blue. 

 

The great Labour will get in filled with their deluded promises about how they're going to transform everything, give great improvements and kiss everyone better....

 

... The opposition will blindly block, attack, belittle, criticise, challenge all and everything that tries to be done...

 

... The media will pick their side and stick to them rigidly entirely dependant on whichever one they feel will attract the most readership or viewership to their publications...

 

...The fickle public will continue twittering on giving their ill informed opinions all over the internet forums and in discussions, gullibly falling for the snappy sound bites and headlines, failing to actually give a toss or take time to properly understand, read, study, digest, participate, watch nor care  about issues (unless some newspaper tells them they should care)...

 

Then after 5 years when nothing has really changed and Labour becomes public enemy number one we go through the whole process again. The Torys come back in with their own great promises of how they're going to fix the economy, make everything better, do great investment....

 

Round and around it will go.

 

Oversimplistic tribal warfare because nobody really cares enough.  Simple fact which can never go away is that politics for the ordinary masses is boring, complicated, time consuming and unglamorous.   People just have better things to be doing with their lives than watching parliamentary debates or giving enough tosa to watch the news every now and then or actually engage in their political system. 

 

Nobody ever choosing to rise above the whole red v blue and make a proper informed choice on the candidate they really think best represents their constituency irrelevant of party or colour or allegiance.

 

Moronic tribal warfare every election time.

 

People want real change.  Let's start with stopping that.

That's right.