General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

[Axe]

On 25/05/2024 at 09:40, Mister M said:

Hey Axe, I'm reading that the Conservative Party haven't selected their candidates in over 150 seats, and are asking for people, pretty please, if they wouldn't at all mind putting themselves up to be representatives.

What about it Axe?

You could be the next Grant Schapps....One minute Grant is there in his back bedroom selling get rich quick schemes using 4 different usernames (Michael Green and Corrine Stockheath being the most famous), the next he's Education Secretary, Party Chairman, Treasury Minister, running Transport and Defence. 

You'd be brilliant at it!

Axe will not be putting his name forward.  The Conservatives have not chosen those candidates yet because they expected the general election to be held much later this year.  It was an own goal by Rishi Sunak because the election date caught his own party out by surprise while the Labour party has planned for an early general action have have most of their candidates chosen. 

[PRESLEY]

3 minutes ago, Axe said:

It is compulsory community service for 18 years olds.  A modern  day replacement for National Service.  Most will be working a few days a year within their own community.  A good idea.

Just another desperate unafordable gimmick which would not materialise if they did stay in office,  National Service would be the better idea,  get the knife culture of the streets and install disciplin and take away the youth entitlement that gives the vast majority of them the idea that laws ect don't apply to them. 

[gaz678]

4 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

Just another desperate unafordable gimmick which would not materialise if they did stay in office,  National Service would be the better idea,  get the knife culture of the streets and install disciplin and take away the youth entitlement that gives the vast majority of them the idea that laws ect don't apply to them. 

I have always said national service would work wonders for the younger generation 🙄 

[Axe]

4 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

Just another desperate unafordable gimmick which would not materialise if they did stay in office,  National Service would be the better idea,  get the knife culture of the streets and install disciplin and take away the youth entitlement that gives the vast majority of them the idea that laws ect don't apply to them. 

There will be 30 thousand places available for those wishing to opt for military service rather than doing work in the community.  It is a well thought out affordable plan.  It is a better idea than bringing back the old National Service because there is not enough barracks to house all the 18 years olds and not enough military available to train them.  Limiting the number to 30 thousand places will ensure only the most suitable for the military get trained. 

[PRESLEY]

2 minutes ago, Axe said:

There will be 30 thousand places available for those wishing to opt for military service rather than doing work in the community.  It is a well thought out affordable plan.  It is a better idea than bringing back the old National Service because there is not enough barracks to house all the 18 years olds and not enough military available to train them.  Limiting the number to 30 thousand places will ensure only the most suitable for the military get trained. 

A typical  Tory elitism  response, ts not the suitable that need the training its the unsuitable who need the training,  its the unsuitable youths in the country who are the problem.

[Padders]

5 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

A typical  Tory elitism  response, ts not the suitable that need the training its the unsuitable who need the training,  its the unsuitable youths in the country who are the problem.

Anyone convicted of carrying a knife should be conscripted into the army.

Give em a Rifle and a bayonet, and send em to Ukraine...

[PRESLEY]

11 minutes ago, Padders said:

Anyone convicted of carrying a knife should be conscripted into the army.

Give em a Rifle and a bayonet, and send em to Ukraine...

Or send em straight to Prison, they are carrying a knife for a reason and thats why stop and search is vital,  the old saying springs to mind, Prevention is better than the cure or in this case,  Prvention is better than the Kill. 

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, Axe said:

There will be 30 thousand places available for those wishing to opt for military service rather than doing work in the community.  It is a well thought out affordable plan.  It is a better idea than bringing back the old National Service because there is not enough barracks to house all the 18 years olds and not enough military available to train them.  Limiting the number to 30 thousand places will ensure only the most suitable for the military get trained. 

Don't forget David Cameron came up with a National Service scheme too, back in 2010. 

What happened to that?

Another typical Tory promise....

[Axe]

10 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Don't forget David Cameron came up with a National Service scheme too, back in 2010. 

What happened to that?

Another typical Tory promise....

It worked very well when David Cameron was prime minister.  It was a voluntary National Citizen Service for 16 and 17 year olds. What Rishi Sunak is proposing is a compulsory citizen program for 18 year olds.   

[Axe]

1 hour ago, PRESLEY said:

A typical  Tory elitism  response, ts not the suitable that need the training its the unsuitable who need the training,  its the unsuitable youths in the country who are the problem.

A sensible response more like.  We are now in the year 2024 and not the 1950's.  The modern day UK military rely more on technology than numbers of soldiers to fight conflicts.  The UK is not Russia which is using soldiers (prisoners) as cannon fodder in their war against Ukraine.  The UK military need the best and not unsuitable youths to fill positions.