General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

[alchresearch]

Labour today bragging they've ended the doctors strikes.

 

But have they?  Remember, the doctors wanted 35% - no negotiation

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/27/junior-doctors-strike-in-england-despite-risk-of-scoring-own-goal

 

So, were the strikes politically motived seeing as how 22% is now sufficient - even though in June they claimed they need a 35% pay rise to act as “full pay restoration” for the 26.2% fall in the value of their incomes they have seen since 2008-09.

 

And there's still the threat that they'll strike again:

 

Junior doctors want more despite backing pay deal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5yy13ng33o

[alchresearch]

2 hours ago, Delbow said:

 

Well the first three and no. 5 all have some validity.

Except they don't.

 

Tories crashed economy

Tories did not lay waste the economy, but the myth suits Labour’s campaign message

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/23/tories-did-not-lay-waste-to-the-economy-but-the-myth-suits-labour-campaign-message-election

 

14 years of Tory failure

Nine.  First five was a coalition government

 

Can't fix things in six weeks

Funny how Starmer was saying that stuff would happen in the first week after the election

Labour ready to launch GB Energy within days if it wins election

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-launch-gb-energy-wins-election-3113779

 

20 Billion black hole

But there's money to blow on these:

[Prettytom]

9 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

Labour today bragging they've ended the doctors strikes.

 

But have they?  

Yes. They clearly have. The strikes have been called off. The deal has been accepted.

 

All it took was for some grown up negotiations to take place.

 

What a shame that the last government couldn’t do that, preferring to trigger strikes for political reasons.

Edited Tuesday at 13:49 by Prettytom

[alchresearch]

7 minutes ago, Prettytom said:

All it took was for some grown up negotiations to take place.

 

What a shame that the last government couldn’t do that, preferring to trigger strikes for political reasons.

 

What a shame you didn't see this:

15 May 2024

Government explores mediation with junior doctors committee

Both parties have agreed a preferred mediator - the union and the government will now begin the process of engaging with them.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-explores-mediation-with-junior-doctors-committee

 

 

[Prettytom]

4 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

 

What a shame you didn't see this:

15 May 2024

Government explores mediation with junior doctors committee

Both parties have agreed a preferred mediator - the union and the government will now begin the process of engaging with them.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-explores-mediation-with-junior-doctors-committee

 

 

What a shame that they prolonged the dispute for so long and only backed down when it was clear that the public didn’t agree with them.

 

The worst government of my lifetime. It’s going to take Starmer years to mop up the **** that they’ve left behind.

[Delbow]

2 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Labour today bragging they've ended the doctors strikes.

 

But have they?  Remember, the doctors wanted 35% - no negotiation

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/27/junior-doctors-strike-in-england-despite-risk-of-scoring-own-goal

 

So, were the strikes politically motived seeing as how 22% is now sufficient - even though in June they claimed they need a 35% pay rise to act as “full pay restoration” for the 26.2% fall in the value of their incomes they have seen since 2008-09.

 

And there's still the threat that they'll strike again:

 

Junior doctors want more despite backing pay deal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5yy13ng33o

 

35% was presumably a starting negotiation point - it's pretty normal for both sides to go higher or lower than they will settle for. 

 

Why did you vote Labour if you prefer the Tories' policies and way of doing things?

[Mister M]

One to watch:

 

Dorries caused more mental health deaths by blocking statutory inquiry, hearing told

[hackey lad]

5 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Except they don't.

 

Tories crashed economy

Tories did not lay waste the economy, but the myth suits Labour’s campaign message

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/23/tories-did-not-lay-waste-to-the-economy-but-the-myth-suits-labour-campaign-message-election

 

14 years of Tory failure

Nine.  First five was a coalition government

 

Can't fix things in six weeks

Funny how Starmer was saying that stuff would happen in the first week after the election

Labour ready to launch GB Energy within days if it wins election

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-launch-gb-energy-wins-election-3113779

 

20 Billion black hole

But there's money to blow on these:

75million today on border control 

[Longcol]

1 hour ago, hackey lad said:

75million today on border control 

Remind us of the cost of Liz Truss's mini budget,

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/12/revealed-the-30bn-cost-of-liz-trusss-disastrous-mini-budget

 

Thought  a lot of folk on here had been crying out for  increased spending on border control.

[hackey lad]

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

Remind us of the cost of Liz Truss's mini budget,

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/12/revealed-the-30bn-cost-of-liz-trusss-disastrous-mini-budget

 

Thought  a lot of folk on here had been crying out for  increased spending on border control.

Thought Labour were crying the country’s skint .