General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, RollingJ said:

Yes dear! 🤣

Sorry but you are so predicable, I think I shall put you on my personal  'ignore'  list- that doesn't mean I don't scan-read your posts, just that I don't bother replying.

Rude, but never mind, it's a free country...

[Al Bundy]

2 hours ago, Mister M said:

Hang on - when the Tories took over from Labour all we heard was 'waaah Labour spent all the money', 'waaaah they didn't fix the roof when the sun was shining". Bear in mind that Labour left office with most public services in good condition, but Government debt at £1.22 trillion and some stupid traditional note.

When the Tories left office in 2024, public services are fit for collapsing and public debt was £2.77 trillion. And Government fraud has totally spiraled out of control, and we lose about 4% of our GDP every year because of Brexit. 

So even by their own measures they failed. 

Those are the facts which are verifiable. 

As for this blaming the pandemic, well tough. That's what Prime Ministers and Governments do they just have to deal with things as they are and make adjustments.

So why did they lose the election by a landslide?

 

 

[Mister M]

22 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

So why did they lose the election by a landslide?

 

 

Because people like you voted for them. - and in 2010 they didn't lose by a landslide.

Edited October 8 by Mister M

[Al Bundy]

1 minute ago, Mister M said:

Because people like you voted for them. - and in 2010 they didn't lose by a landslide.

Like me?

 

Please expand.

[Mister M]

2 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Like me?

 

Please expand.

You've said in the past that you're a Tory voter - and that's what I meant - people like you who voted Tory ensured there was a Tory government 

[Mister M]

Just in case you missed it:

 

[RollingJ]

3 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Just in case you missed it:

 

Interesting source. 😉

[m williamson]

8 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Interesting source. 😉

Are you disputing the points made or simply attacking the source? I believe that's known as shooting the messenger.

 

The Tories disgraced themselves over the last few years and had to be removed, now Labour are starting off as though they're going to be little better and will continue along in a similar fashion.

This embarrassing situation is aided by our unfit for purpose voting system.  The Conservatives didn't receive a majority of votes cast in 2019 and yet came away with an unassailable majority. Labour received even less of a percentage of votes cast in the last election and came away with an even more unassailable majority.

 

The system is ridiculously undemocratic and needs to be changed, but neither one of the main two parties wants that because the present nonsense suits them not us.

Which is why in 2011 we were offered AV and not PR+STV, which has been in operation in part of the UK since 1973.

[RollingJ]

4 minutes ago, m williamson said:

Are you disputing the points made or simply attacking the source? I believe that's known as shooting the messenger.

 

The Tories disgraced themselves over the last few years and had to be removed, now Labour are starting off as though they're going to be little better and will continue along in a similar fashion.

This embarrassing situation is aided by our unfit for purpose voting system.  The Conservatives didn't receive a majority of votes cast in 2019 and yet came away with an unassailable majority. Labour received even less of a percentage of votes cast in the last election and came away with an even more unassailable majority.

 

The system is ridiculously undemocratic and needs to be changed, but neither one of the main two parties wants that because the present nonsense suits them not us.

Which is why in 2011 we were offered AV and not PR+STV, which has been in operation in part of the UK since 1973.

As I agree with some of the above, I'll answer your first statement.  I assume the originator of the FB post thought his 'handle' would make people read his thoughts, so in that respect I suppose he was clever. I am neither 'disputing the points made, or "attacking" the source' - merely making a comment, as many do on here.

[High Chaparral]

4 hours ago, RollingJ said:

I believe Sunak was better, yes, Starmer, no.

That's fair enough. I believe Boris Johnson was better because he kept his promise and implemented Brexit.  Rishi Sunak failed to implement his flagship Rwanda plan deciding to call an early election instead after all the hurdles had been cleared which was unforgivable.