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[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, High Chaparral said:

That's fair enough. I believe Boris Johnson was better because he kept his promise and implemented Brexit.  Rishi Sunak failed to implement his flagship Rwanda plan deciding to call an early election instead after all the hurdles had been cleared which was unforgivable.

In your opinion, to which you are entitled....

[m williamson]

11 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

As I agree with some of the above, I'll answer your first statement.  I assume the originator of the FB post thought his 'handle' would make people read his thoughts, so in that respect I suppose he was clever. I am neither 'disputing the points made, or "attacking" the source' - merely making a comment, as many do on here.

 

He may well have thought that, but surely what matters is whether or not he's correct in what he says? If he is correct then it's immaterial who he is or how much he holds himself in high regard. If he's right then he's right, dipstick or not.

 

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, m williamson said:

If he's right then he's right,

No further comment tonight - I have TV programme to watch, and people to help on the support forum I frequent.

[m williamson]

15 minutes ago, High Chaparral said:

That's fair enough. I believe Boris Johnson was better because he kept his promise and implemented Brexit.  Rishi Sunak failed to implement his flagship Rwanda plan deciding to call an early election instead after all the hurdles had been cleared which was unforgivable.

 

Boris Johnson got Brexit done in the same way that someone would get a person free from being entangled in a net by their arm by chopping the arm off, instead of untangling the net.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-no-plan-b2326008.html

 

Johnson is a self entitled lying, unprincipled narcissist, who cares for no one other than himself,  he gets away with it because of the incredible number of gullible people there are in the country. As does Trump in the States.

[m williamson]

8 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

No further comment tonight - I have TV programme to watch, and people to help on the support forum I frequent.

 

Good luck with the support forum, it sounds like a worthwhile thing to do.  👍

[hackey lad]

5 hours ago, Mister M said:

Hang on - when the Tories took over from Labour all we heard was 'waaah Labour spent all the money', 'waaaah they didn't fix the roof when the sun was shining". Bear in mind that Labour left office with most public services in good condition, but Government debt at £1.22 trillion and some stupid traditional note.

When the Tories left office in 2024, public services are fit for collapsing and public debt was £2.77 trillion. And Government fraud has totally spiraled out of control, and we lose about 4% of our GDP every year because of Brexit. 

So even by their own measures they failed. 

Those are the facts which are verifiable. 

As for this blaming the pandemic, well tough. That's what Prime Ministers and Governments do they just have to deal with things as they are and make adjustments.

And now we are hearing "waaah fourteen years"  "waaah , we've inherited " . They wanted the job ,they got it . 

By the way ,any Government that has Liz Kendall , Ed Milliband  etc on the front bench are really going to struggle .

[RJRB]

10 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

And now we are hearing "waaah fourteen years"  "waaah , we've inherited " . They wanted the job ,they got it . 

By the way ,any Government that has Liz Kendall , Ed Milliband  etc on the front bench are really going to struggle .

Mainly from you and it’s hard to deny the facts.

Had it been different then the GE would not have demonstrated the loss of faith in the failure of the Tories in recent years.

BTW Labour has many MPs to call upon as ministers whereas the Tories had to churn so many that they had run out of options.

 

[RJRB]

They have even less now  and cannot even call on Shapps to take on a new role every few months😄

[hackey lad]

8 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Mainly from you and it’s hard to deny the facts.

Had it been different then the GE would not have demonstrated the loss of faith in the failure of the Tories in recent years.

BTW Labour has many MPs to call upon as ministers whereas the Tories had to churn so many that they had run out of options.

 

What is mainly from me  ?

[RJRB]

Just now, hackey lad said:

What is mainly from me  ?

Waaah Waah Waah