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[Baron99]

'Transport Minister Thrown Under Bus.' 

 

There you are Sunday newspaper editors, tomorrow's headline already done for you.  You're welcome. 

[Tony]

22 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

'Transport Minister Thrown Under Bus.' 

 

There you are Sunday newspaper editors, tomorrow's headline already done for you.  You're welcome. 

 

They can move surprisingly  fast - front page of the Graun today. Ms Haigh will be having a rough weekend wondering if she'll have a job to go back to. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/12/keir-starmer-rebukes-transport-secretary-po-ferries-rogue-operator

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Keir Starmer has rebuked the transport secretary after she described P&O Ferries as a “rogue operator” and appeared to call for a boycott of the firm.

Louise Haigh criticised P&O Ferries on Wednesday while announcing new worker protections, referring to the firm as a “rogue operator”. She also said she had boycotted the ferry company and told the Department for Transport not to have any dealings with either it or its owning group.

 

Shortly after her comments, DP World, the Dubai-based owner of P&O Ferries, put the announcement of a reported £1bn investment in the UK on hold.

 

 

 

[High Chaparral]

35 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

'Transport Minister Thrown Under Bus.' 

 

There you are Sunday newspaper editors, tomorrow's headline already done for you.  You're welcome. 

Well thought out headline.

 

There's a lot of voter regret out there as the penny drops that the Labour is more suitable as the party of opposition rather the party of government.

[ECCOnoob]

I suspect so. Lots of people blindly voting for Labour for the over simplistic reason of "...they're not the Tories".   Not about who the voter thinks is best to represent them and their constituency.  Not about what the voter thinks about their policies. Not about what the voter thinks will actually magically change.  Just that black versus white, political tribal warfare, knee-jerk reaction i've talked about so many times before. 

 

"Change" their big slogan and marketing gimmick at the moment. Well yeah but nobody said it was going to be a good change. 

 

100 days in office and what do we have.. Starmer currently getting negative reactions from 63% of those polled.  As unpopular as Nigel farage according to one headline. Ministers getting a public rebuke from their leader.  An MP resigning and openly criticising the party direction. A headline, grabbing scandal and shaming about gifts and donations and privileges.....

 

Yep, real change that. Certainly going well so far.

[Delbow]

14 hours ago, Tony said:

Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear. 

 

The art of politics is not having licence to gob off. It's being wise enough to know when to shut up. 

 

I take it you're not happy with Louise Haigh's comment at the time they sacked those 800 workers either?:

 

"P&O are acting like pirates of the high sea and its CEO not only admitted in Parliament about DELIBERATELY breaking the law, but had the audacity to confirm it in a letter to the Transport Secretary"

[High Chaparral]

4 minutes ago, Delbow said:

 

I take it you're not happy with Louise Haigh's comment at the time they sacked those 800 workers either?:

 

"P&O are acting like pirates of the high sea and its CEO not only admitted in Parliament about DELIBERATELY breaking the law, but had the audacity to confirm it in a letter to the Transport Secretary"

The time is now October 2024 and Louise Haigh is the Transport Minister. Encouraging people to boycott a major ferry company that provide transport for the UK public and business is a stupid thing to do.  

 

At least now David Lammy is the Foreign Secretary he is not repeating the comments he made about Donald Trump before he got his current position.

[Delbow]

5 minutes ago, High Chaparral said:

The time is now October 2024 and Louise Haigh is the Transport Minister. Encouraging people to boycott a major ferry company that provide transport for the UK public and business is a stupid thing to do.  

 

At least now David Lammy is the Foreign Secretary he is not repeating the comments he made about Donald Trump before he got his current position.

 

What are you saying, that it's fine to make those comments as long as you're not transport secretary?

[Tony]

10 minutes ago, Delbow said:

 

I take it you're not happy with Louise Haigh's comment at the time they sacked those 800 workers either?:

 

"P&O are acting like pirates of the high sea and its CEO not only admitted in Parliament about DELIBERATELY breaking the law, but had the audacity to confirm it in a letter to the Transport Secretary"

 

Why would I be happy about it or otherwise? If they broke the law they should be subjected to the appropriate legal sanctions, not ridiculous grudges borne by a newly installed Transport Minister with a class warfare chip on her shoulder.

 

More generally, this new government is having to learn the hard way that money is mobile and the UK isn't owed a living. We have to work for it in competition with other nations who will quite happily take DP World's billion quid and turn it into ten billion when it hits the economy. This is O Level Economics stuff that they should all know. 

 

If you know Ms Haigh, perhaps you can send her this link about the business that she is boycotting: https://www.dpworld.com/united-kingdom/about-us/dp-world-in-the-uk 

[Delbow]

2 minutes ago, Tony said:

 

More generally, this new government is having to learn the hard way that money is mobile and the UK isn't owed a living. We have to work for it in competition with other nations who will quite happily take DP World's billion quid and turn it into ten billion when it hits the economy. This is O Level Economics stuff that they should all know. 

 

 

This bit is accurate at least - in a capitalist system, we are all held to ransom by those who own assets and the means of production. This is because they have taken into private ownership the means of production that used to belong to all, meaning that we are now enslaved to their whims and diktats, instead of being free.

[Tony]

4 minutes ago, Delbow said:

 

This bit is accurate at least - in a capitalist system, we are all held to ransom by those who own assets and the means of production. This is because they have taken into private ownership the means of production that used to belong to all, meaning that we are now enslaved to their whims and diktats, instead of being free.

 

An O Level in Economics would put you right there.