General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

[High Chaparral]

4 minutes ago, cressida said:

Who is the famous Yorkshireman pictured?

Captain Cook as a guess.

[hackey lad]

7 minutes ago, cressida said:

Who is the famous Yorkshireman pictured?

William Wilberforce . 

[cressida]

1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

William Wilberforce . 

Thanks Hackey,  he was against slavery - good man,

[hackey lad]

Just now, cressida said:

Thanks Hackey,  he was against slavery - good man,

[Al Bundy]

2 hours ago, RollingJ said:

Or gesture politics.

Is the correct answer.

👍

[alchresearch]

19 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Labour voters don’t like talking about Labour on here do they.

 

I think they've finally realised that their only comebacks - whataboutery and personal attacks - are getting them nowhere.

 

If the country is in so much of a mess, why are the same civil servants - who REALLY run the country - still in charge? 

 

My OH is a civil servant, she now has a brand new overall boss - Angela Rayner - but the same bad management from the same civil servants underneath her are still in a job and still fouling up the department she works in.  

 

[Mister M]

1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

 

I think they've finally realised that their only comebacks - whataboutery and personal attacks - are getting them nowhere.

 

If the country is in so much of a mess, why are the same civil servants - who REALLY run the country - still in charge? 

 

My OH is a civil servant, she now has a brand new overall boss - Angela Rayner - but the same bad management from the same civil servants underneath her are still in a job and still fouling up the department she works in.  

 

We don't have a system like in America, personnel in the civil service doesn't change with a change in administration. 

I think there are / were issues to do with the Home Office which have bedeviled administrations going back decades. Having said that I think by and large the civil service do a good job.

With regards to Hackey's point. I'm more than happy to talk about the reasons why I voted Labour; which is a refreshing change from a while ago when I asked Hackey why he voted Conservative  and he  became extremely uptight and gave monosyllabic answers.

 

[Mister M]

2 minutes ago, Mister M said:

We don't have a system like in America, personnel in the civil service doesn't change with a change in administration. 

I think there are / were issues to do with the Home Office which have bedeviled administrations going back decades. Having said that I think by and large the civil service do a good job.

With regards to Hackey's point. I'm more than happy to talk about the reasons why I voted Labour; which is a refreshing change from a while ago when I asked Hackey why he voted Conservative  and he  became extremely uptight and gave monosyllabic answers.

 

In addition to the above, I don't think that elected officials can sack or hire civil servants, IIRC there is independence between the two.

[hackey lad]

4 minutes ago, Mister M said:

We don't have a system like in America, personnel in the civil service doesn't change with a change in administration. 

I think there are / were issues to do with the Home Office which have bedeviled administrations going back decades. Having said that I think by and large the civil service do a good job.

With regards to Hackey's point. I'm more than happy to talk about the reasons why I voted Labour; which is a refreshing change from a while ago when I asked Hackey why he voted Conservative  and he  became extremely uptight and gave monosyllabic answers.

 

I never asked why you voted Labour . I asked why Labour voters on here were reticent about talking about Labour. 

[alchresearch]

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