General Election 2024: General UK Politics Discussion here

[Magilla]

6 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Polite question . Why don’t you post on the Brexit thread  ? 

 

The Brexit related topic didn't come up in the Brexit thread.

[Bamanamanana]

7 hours ago, Magilla said:

Since Brexit is a central cause of what has happened to the Tories, you can take a lot more credit than I for their win too!

 

Brexit was instrumental in delivering a Labour government, in context, that's quite funny. 🤣

 

 

 

[High Chaparral]

29 minutes ago, Bamanamanana said:

 

Brexit was instrumental in delivering a Labour government, in context, that's quite funny. 🤣

 

 

 

Another thing you're blaming Brexit for.

[Bamanamanana]

25 minutes ago, High Chaparral said:

Another thing you're blaming Brexit for.

 

Brexit is a central cause of what has happened to to the Tory party, and a major contributor to why they lost the election.

 

Whether you want to believe that or not, is up to you!

[alchresearch]

18 hours ago, Mister M said:

We don't have a system like in America, personnel in the civil service doesn't change with a change in administration. 

I think there are / were issues to do with the Home Office which have bedeviled administrations going back decades. Having said that I think by and large the civil service do a good job.

 

 

I certainly don't agree when it comes to councils.  How many people were sacked or elected out after these three debacles?  I'll give you a clue - none. But I'm sure "lessons were learnt".

 

Its really a kick in the teeth when you see some councils claiming austerity and a tight fisted government is forcing cuts, when its bad management and nobody is punished for it.

 

City council faces £216.5M loss over Oracle IT system debacle

https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/20/birmingham_oracle_cost/

 

Sheffield Council spends more than £1 million apologising for tree scandal

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-council-spends-more-than-ps1-million-apologising-for-tree-scandal-4190219

 

Liverpool council may have squandered up to £100m of public money

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/25/liverpool-council-may-have-squandered-up-to-100m-public-money

[alchresearch]

The councils aren't building these houses.

So why is Labour paying councils to prepare land for private business to profit?

And only 5200 homes will be built

 

[Mister M]

17 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

 

I certainly don't agree when it comes to councils.  How many people were sacked or elected out after these three debacles?  I'll give you a clue - none. But I'm sure "lessons were learnt".

 

Its really a kick in the teeth when you see some councils claiming austerity and a tight fisted government is forcing cuts, when its bad management and nobody is punished for it.

 

City council faces £216.5M loss over Oracle IT system debacle

https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/20/birmingham_oracle_cost/

 

Sheffield Council spends more than £1 million apologising for tree scandal

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-council-spends-more-than-ps1-million-apologising-for-tree-scandal-4190219

 

Liverpool council may have squandered up to £100m of public money

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/25/liverpool-council-may-have-squandered-up-to-100m-public-money

Not sure if we're discussing the same thing - I was talking about the civil service.

[XboxMan2024]

1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

The councils aren't building these houses.

So why is Labour paying councils to prepare land for private business to profit?

And only 5200 homes will be built

 

And that doesn't even scratch the surface of the rising demand for social Housing.

 

[Baron99]

It's drizzling out today.  B#+%-:£* Brexit! 

[Tony]

2 hours ago, alchresearch said:

The councils aren't building these houses.

So why is Labour paying councils to prepare land for private business to profit?

And only 5200 homes will be built

 

 

 

The Fund was devised and introduced by Johnson's government and is overall a Good Thing. Labour just get to implement the latest funding round.

 

It's only £13k / property which is probably about right to bring brownfield land into housing use. But you are right, all the money should go straight to private developers instead of allowing local authorities to cream off a massive margin that reduces the number of houses built.  Councils would have more houses more quickly for the same money or less if they simply bought them direct from housebuilders instead of doing it themselves.