General Election 2024: Landslide Labour Win

[peak4]

34 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

Any chance you can supply the proof Tommy Yaxley-Lennon Robinson is racist? You must have forgotten when I asked you twice the other day.

🤣

I guess it depends on ones definition of racism; Yaxley-Lennon is certainly overtly anti Muslim.
Tommy Robinson and the far right’s new playbook   Grauniad.
Many folk, myself included , view the more extreme ends of his hate preaching as racism, in the same way that anti-Semitism should be viewed as racist

[ see the linked post below for details relating to The Great Replacement Theory and its connection to anti-Semitism.]

 

Back in 2018 he even seemed to be promoting Generation Identity
Analysis: Tommy Robinson’s ‘Day for Freedom’ – a new turning point for fascism and the far right     

The star figure in this new movement and at Sunday’s protest was longtime fascist “Tommy Robinson” / Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, once a member of the nazi British National Party and later founding member and leader of the EDL. Until recently, he was aligned with Canada based “alt-right” media outlet Rebel Media, before going independent.

Yaxley-Lennon has built a huge social media following – and his political positions have hardened to the extent that he is now openly promoting and assisting leaders of the international Generation Identity groups.

Generation Hate: French far right’s violence and racism exposed Al Jazeera
Al Jazeera investigation reveals Generation Identity members carrying out racist attacks, making Nazi salutes in Lille.

 

What did folk make of the content of an earlier post on a different thread?

 

On 26/06/2024 at 19:06, peak4 said:

I suspect your are being led down a route where someone wants to claim that anti-Islam rhetoric isn't racism, as Islam isn't a race.

We must also remember that Yaxley Lennon has also dabbled with The Great Replacement Theory, which many would consider to have anti-Semitic roots.
Tommy Robinson vs the media – and the ‘great replacement’ theory that links him to Christchurch   Searchlight

 

I'm no great fan of Streeting, but in this case he was on an APPG with Anna Soubry   Guardian
Yes, Islamophobia is a type of racism. Here’s why ; Wes Streeting

we argue that “Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”.

We’ve produce a series of examples, modelled on the IHRA definition of antisemitism, to help people understand how this manifests

 

One of the pieces of evidence  for discussion in such debates is downloadable from here; from my perspective, he makes a strong argument that Islamophobia should be considered in the same light as anti-Semitism.

Further written evidence from Professor Tariq Modood (HCL0057)
What is Islamophobia? Tariq Modood, MBE, FBA, FAcSS, FRSA Professor of Sociology, Politics and Public Policy,Director, University of Bristol Research Centre for the Study of Ethnicity and Citizenship
Conclusion: A Definition of Islamophobia
My suggested definition of Islamophobia, which may not capture everything meant by ‘Islamophobia’ but which captures the core features of the contemporary phenomena for Muslims in Britain:
Islamophobia is the racialising of Muslims based on physical appearance or descents members of a community and attributing to them cultural or religious characteristics to vilify, marginalise, discriminate or demand assimilation and thereby treat them as second class citizens.

 

So the next logical question might be, does Yaxley-Lennon promote anti Muslim hatred/discrimination?

If he does, then should he be regarded as racist on this alone, as well as promoting and attempting to stir up religious hatred.
Perhaps one for another post.

 

 

 

[melthebell]

Just now, The_DADDY said:

So to be clear. Are you saying only racists will vote for Reform and that anyone who does vote for them is a racist? 

sigh, no, a lot will have racist views, hence the campaigners uncovered in the sting, a lot of people though i think have been suckered in by Farages consistant racist obsession , propagated by decades in the media.

 

[hackey lad]

It's coming .

[Mister Gee]

Just now, hackey lad said:

It's coming .

What is? 

[Prettytom]

2 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

What is? 

[The_DADDY]

9 minutes ago, melthebell said:

sigh, no, a lot will have racist views, hence the campaigners uncovered in the sting, a lot of people though i think have been suckered in by Farages consistant racist obsession , propagated by decades in the media.

 

Thank you for answering 👍

[hackey lad]

8 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

What is? 

Pain .

[Mister M]

2 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Pain .

The pain of what?

You having to answer the hows and whys of it was a set up?

[Mister Gee]

57 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

It dosent work like that 

You say 90% of people will call it out.

So where are the 90%?

How did you arrive at the conclusion 90% of people will call it out?

That’s a very unusual take on doesn’t, can’t think where I’ve seen that before.

Hang on a minute.

 

[hackey lad]

2 minutes ago, Mister M said:

The pain of what?

You having to answer the hows and whys of it was a set up?

No .