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1 hour ago, ECCOnoob said:

 

Some women have always done that. Plenty of blokes have always done that too.

 

Whether people find it distasteful or not This is a legal business. It's entertainment. One of the most prominent camera companies was founded and based right here in the UK.  It has a valuation of a billion and made a pre-tax profit £500m on last account with a staff of over a thousand plus employees on their books.  

 

Like it or not, for some people. It's a job that they choose to do. There's lots of other jobs that might be classed to some as 'distasteful' or 'unethical' or 'damaging ones reputation' but such is life. 

Don't worry folks, there's no moral decline. Ecconoob says it's a legitimate legal business and makes money, so that's alright then. Let your daughters go do it, Ecconoob says it's ok. 

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8 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Don't worry folks, there's no moral decline. Ecconoob says it's a legitimate legal business and makes money, so that's alright then. Let your daughters go do it, Ecconoob says it's ok. 

Did he say that  ?

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26 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Don't worry folks, there's no moral decline. Ecconoob says it's a legitimate legal business and makes money, so that's alright then. Let your daughters go do it, Ecconoob says it's ok. 

 

What is this "moral decline" you speak of.

 

Why don't you contribute to the debate properly instead of getting all snippy when someone calls you out on your exaggerations.

 

Why don't you actually read what I said in my post with exception of the technology and the medium of delivery,  just what has so drastically declined in your opinion.

 

Erotica, pornography, suggestive imagery, provocative modelling, teasing, nudity and the basic concept of sex sells has been around for centuries. 

 

Not so many years ago, we had topless models just there printed bold as brass in National newspapers for anyone to see and pick up.....We had soft porn movies on mainstream television.... We had entire movie franchises where the sole premise and plot was based on scantily clad women parading around in their undergarments at the behest and command of their male masters.. We had prime time sitcoms attracting millions of viewers with 90% of the plot being nothing more than dirty old men. continually chatting up and getting into bed with young girls.... We had streams of game shows where every single male host had to be accompanied by some female prop in some tight fitting mini dress draping themselves over the latest car or washing machine prizes....

 

Decline of society my backside. You seriously think the transition into internet-based and live feed services is that much of a drastic change. 

 

Take your rose tinted glasses off love. 

 

I am sure nobody wants their daughter to be a famous cam girl. But equally I don't think parents were jumping for joy back then either to to find out their daughter was going to be getting her baps out multiple times a week in the Sun or got starring role in the latest Confessions movie.  Doesn't mean people didn't do it for a living and earned well out of it.  Certainly didn't mean people stopped watching and engaging with it.

 

It's part of our society. Its part of our lives that we all engage in whether we like to admit it or not.  

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2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

 

Some women have always done that. Plenty of blokes have always done that too.

 

Whether people find it distasteful or not This is a legal business. It's entertainment.

 

It used to be on the top shelf, now it's online 24/7 where do we draw the line?

We can sell our private bodies, should we be able to sell our blood, selling hair is legal.

The NHS buys blood, or it did do, there is a scandal in the news now!

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2 minutes ago, El Cid said:

 

It used to be on the top shelf, now it's online 24/7 where do we draw the line?

We can sell our private bodies, should we be able to sell our blood, selling hair is legal.

The NHS buys blood, or it did do, there is a scandal in the news now!

 

No, it was not just "on the top shelf". It was ingrained in our society. It was in nightclubs. It was in bars. It was on billboard posters. In the cinema. In the newspapers. In the magazines. It was on television. In phone booths. It was happening on the street in broad daylight all just available there waiting to be picked up for those who went looking for it.

 

We had the drug hazed free love orgy filled 1960s followed by the car keys in the bowl, dinner party wife swapping 70s followed by the tabloid scandal filled power hunger 1980s with those prominent politicians and CEOs being busted tied up by Madam Dominatrix in some sex den Soho followed by the lager swilling boob tube wearing casual flings down the back alley lads and ladette era of the 1990s.....

 

How many more times. It's the technology which has changed. The method of delivery that's all. 

 

Seriously, what is the difference between somebody on a camera getting their bits out for viewers who have chosen to tune into their channel and pay the fee against  somebody back then doing exactly the same for a TV movie or some light nudy pic at the cinema which the audience has chosen to pay and see.

 

Why is somebody choosing to post their provocative pictures on their paywall web page really any different to the models who used to pose straddling motorbikes or suggestively laying  bales of hay in the jazz mags.  

 

Really does seem to be an awful lot of uptight prudes who are in complete denial on this thread. 

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Mmm....  I wonder if you'd be so sanguine if it was your mother, sister or daughter doing it for all to see Ecconoob? 

 

Certainly sex is endemic and makes the world go round, I'm no prude, but surely some things are best kept private.  But the internet is a public space available to all, including children who might go searching having had their interest peaked. The images / videos are not all things of beauty by any means, some involve acts which are embarrassing to say the least, bizarre, and sometimes quite simply ugly, degenerate and vile, presumably because titilating those with perverse tastes pays more. The skies the limit isn't it, and presumably will continue to become more and more extreme in an effort to keep the customers happy.

 

The images will live on the internet for ever, cannot be erased, and will follow the person through life as a permanent reminder. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. 

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6 hours ago, Anna B said:

Mmm....  I wonder if you'd be so sanguine if it was your mother, sister or daughter doing it for all to see Ecconoob? 

 

Certainly sex is endemic and makes the world go round, I'm no prude, but surely some things are best kept private.  But the internet is a public space available to all, including children who might go searching having had their interest peaked. The images / videos are not all things of beauty by any means, some involve acts which are embarrassing to say the least, bizarre, and sometimes quite simply ugly, degenerate and vile, presumably because titilating those with perverse tastes pays more. The skies the limit isn't it, and presumably will continue to become more and more extreme in an effort to keep the customers happy.

 

The images will live on the internet for ever, cannot be erased, and will follow the person through life as a permanent reminder. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. 


Ecco's vehement defense of this digitised prostitution makes me wonder how many times "OnlyFans" appears on their monthly bank statement as an outgoing...

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10 hours ago, Resident said:


The SA comes along when their views dip so they go further and further to keep their subscribers.

I know of a girl who started and promised herself it would only ever be underwear pics and suggestive poses to make a quick buck.
She earnt a few quid but then started to lose viewers, so she rethought her promise and started doing topless, that died off in the same way, then it was full nudity, followed by masterbating on camera, with toys and then finally banging dudes.

In this time her young child has grown and started secondary school and has suffered merciless bullying, sharing the pics and videos of their mum getting barebacked and creampied (urban dictionary for those terms, NSFW).

She's now given it up and tried to invest the little bit she earnt into a proper business venture but no-one will take her seriously & it may sound harsh but that's called consequences of actions

There are 2 points to make here though:

1. There are 2 main platforms, OnlyFans and Fansly & a third more minor called AdmireMe. NONE of these platforms started as sex sites. OnlyFans was originally launched to be a amalgomation of Twitch & Patreon. The founder of OF even tried to ban the digital prostitution but was overruled by his own executive board because they just saw the pound signs. 

2. There are a lot of stories about how they're earning 100s of thousands. Looking at the figures online, only the top 0.1% of earners earn anywhere near that. The reality is that the 99% of digital prostitutes earn less than £1000/month. The UK average income from OnlyFans is tiny. £150 a month. 

Do you think your value and morals are worth £150 a month? 

The only arbiter of morality these days is the free market. “Leave it to the market, let the market decide “ (Margaret Thatcher)

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3 minutes ago, Ridgewalk said:

The only arbiter of morality these days is the free market. “Leave it to the market, let the market decide “ (Margaret Thatcher)


There's also a massive hypocrisy amongst the women that do these prostitution platform. 

Many rant and rave about being objectified by men in the streets (presumeably ones that have discovered what they're up to) but are willing to objective themselves for men, as long as they pay £4.99....

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9 minutes ago, Resident said:


There's also a massive hypocrisy amongst the women that do these prostitution platform. 

Many rant and rave about being objectified by men in the streets (presumeably ones that have discovered what they're up to) but are willing to objective themselves for men, as long as they pay £4.99....

I believe many are students trying to fund their way through University. It must be tempting to earn 'easy' money, (IMO it's never easy,) but I urge them not to do it. Times change, morals change. One day it may well come back to haunt them.

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