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31 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

 

Where is the physical contact if watching someone on a camera hundreds or thousands of miles away? 

 

Where is the sexual activity is they are simply posing, stripping, teasing, parading, grinding to camera on recorded or live feed videos viewed by multiple viewers? 

 

I maintain camera girls/boys different category to prostetution.  If we deemed it ok for some woman to get her tits out for the lads all over the national newspapers...   If it is acceptable for hordes of over-excitable women to go to a Theatre to have some Magic Mike type waggling his massive wang around and gyrating over half the crowd, what exactly is the problem with somebody engaged  in the same type of behaviour on a camera feed.

 

The helicopter is their favourite.....

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11 hours ago, Beechwood_S6 said:

I always thought you was a fan of the Tate Brothers

 

Wow. :shocked: 

 

How in the hell does he sleep at night?! No wonder he was in jail. 

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How innocent the 'Miss World' pageant seems now, yet it was banned for being 'a cattle market and demeaning to women.

Well look where we are now.

Once again money rules OK.

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12 hours ago, Pyrotequila said:

If they can live with themselves being seen as a rent-a-bike, then that's their choice.

 

Or their kid at school... "what does mummy do for a job?" 🤑

 

I can't see too many men with a shred of self respect wanting to date anyone like that though.

The problem is that many young women lack the emotional maturity to see how this type of behavior can impact their futures. There are women who feel zero shame at going out in public or disrupting  a social event with inappropriate dress or behavior.  So long as every man in the place is looking at them, they feel important. if they could earn a weeks pay in a couple hours of behaving in a manner that gets them ostracized in real life, some can't take their clothes off fast enough. They don't realize how valuable a good reputation is until it's been ruined.

 

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33 minutes ago, Anna B said:

How innocent the 'Miss World' pageant seems now, yet it was banned for being 'a cattle market and demeaning to women.

Well look where we are now.

Once again money rules OK.

 

What the hell are you talking about? What do you mean "look where we are now"

 

The only thing that's changed is the evolution of technology and thus the medium in which these images/displays/videos are delivered.  It's always been around. You can't have had that much of a sheltered life to think it's a modern-day phenomena brought on by the neoliberalists.   

 

The concept of miss world has certainly not been "banned". In fact it's the last edition was back in 2023.  It might have dropped off the television schedules because taste changes and the world of viewer hungry media is as fickle as anything. However, that doesn't automatically mean nobody is watching it and nobody is taking part. 

 

It was quite right to scrap page three girls out of the national newspapers, because why should such imagery be thrust upon everyone without any consent, warning or appropriate format. However, that doesn't mean that everybody automatically stops buying publications with nudy girls or adonis boys with their bits out.

 

Like I keep saying, these camera sites are just a natural extension to all of that. Pick your favourite model or models and wait for the show to start. No different to the old peep shows where you put a pound in the slot only these days it's enter credit card number and charged per minute.

 

Yes money does talk and some girls and boys who are clearly confident enough, willing and attractive enough are doing very well out of it....  just as as glamour models, erotic artists, adult movie actors, models, strippers and burlesque performers have done for decades if not centuries prior.

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I am always amazed that some of the great grandmothers were forerunners of this,  plenty of their photos on the net interspersed with today's

celebrity photos.

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1 minute ago, Sierra said:

The problem is that many young women lack the emotional maturity to see how this type of behavior can impact their futures. There are women who feel zero shame at going out in public or disrupting  a social event with inappropriate dress or behavior.  So long as every man in the place is looking at them, they feel important. if they could earn a weeks pay in a couple hours of behaving in a manner that gets them ostracized in real life, some can't take their clothes off fast enough. They don't realize how valuable a good reputation is until it's been ruined.

 

 

Some women have always done that. Plenty of blokes have always done that too.

 

Whether people find it distasteful or not This is a legal business. It's entertainment. One of the most prominent camera companies was founded and based right here in the UK.  It has a valuation of a billion and made a pre-tax profit £500m on last account with a staff of over a thousand plus employees on their books.  

 

Like it or not, for some people. It's a job that they choose to do. There's lots of other jobs that might be classed to some as 'distasteful' or 'unethical' or 'damaging ones reputation' but such is life. 

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

How innocent the 'Miss World' pageant seems now, yet it was banned for being 'a cattle market and demeaning to women.

Well look where we are now.

Once again money rules OK.

 

It wasn't banned - it's still going in fact. It's just not broadcast on UK channels any more.

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13 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Where is the sexual activity is they are simply posing, stripping, teasing, parading, grinding to camera on recorded or live feed videos viewed by multiple viewers?


The SA comes along when their views dip so they go further and further to keep their subscribers.

I know of a girl who started and promised herself it would only ever be underwear pics and suggestive poses to make a quick buck.
She earnt a few quid but then started to lose viewers, so she rethought her promise and started doing topless, that died off in the same way, then it was full nudity, followed by masterbating on camera, with toys and then finally banging dudes.

In this time her young child has grown and started secondary school and has suffered merciless bullying, sharing the pics and videos of their mum getting barebacked and creampied (urban dictionary for those terms, NSFW).

She's now given it up and tried to invest the little bit she earnt into a proper business venture but no-one will take her seriously & it may sound harsh but that's called consequences of actions

There are 2 points to make here though:

1. There are 2 main platforms, OnlyFans and Fansly & a third more minor called AdmireMe. NONE of these platforms started as sex sites. OnlyFans was originally launched to be a amalgomation of Twitch & Patreon. The founder of OF even tried to ban the digital prostitution but was overruled by his own executive board because they just saw the pound signs. 

2. There are a lot of stories about how they're earning 100s of thousands. Looking at the figures online, only the top 0.1% of earners earn anywhere near that. The reality is that the 99% of digital prostitutes earn less than £1000/month. The UK average income from OnlyFans is tiny. £150 a month. 

Do you think your value and morals are worth £150 a month? 

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29 minutes ago, Resident said:

There are a lot of stories about how they're earning 100s of thousands. Looking at the figures online, only the top 0.1% of earners earn anywhere near that. The reality is that the 99% of digital prostitutes earn less than £1000/month. The UK average income from OnlyFans is tiny. £150 a month. 

Do you think your value and morals are worth £150 a month? 

 

My thought was that there would be women in poor countries that do it and they could earn a lot compared to their minimum wage.

A bed etc on camera could be in any country.

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