Who's joining Tommy?

[Prettytom]

32 minutes ago, Delayed said:

 

While addressing an EDL audience in 2011, Robinson stated that “every single Muslim” in the UK had “got away with” the 7/7 bombings, holding all Muslims responsible for the violent actions carried out by a group of individuals. He referred to the English city of Birmingham as the “terrorist epicenter of Britain.” 

Robinson has called for a ban on “Muslim immigration,” and claimed migrants entering Europe are “harassing women, they’re raping women, they’re culturally and ideologically, not going to assimilate.” The Guardian reported that in January 2016, Robinson tweeted: “I’d personally send every adult male Muslim that has come into the EU over the past 12 months back tomorrow if I could. Fake refugees.” 

 

 

Yes, but that doesn’t make him wacist in some people’s eyes.

 

I mean, he doesn’t put a hood on and tie black people to his truck or anything.

[peak4]

24 minutes ago, Delayed said:

 

While addressing an EDL audience in 2011, Robinson stated that “every single Muslim” in the UK had “got away with” the 7/7 bombings, holding all Muslims responsible for the violent actions carried out by a group of individuals. He referred to the English city of Birmingham as the “terrorist epicenter of Britain.” 

Robinson has called for a ban on “Muslim immigration,” and claimed migrants entering Europe are “harassing women, they’re raping women, they’re culturally and ideologically, not going to assimilate.” The Guardian reported that in January 2016, Robinson tweeted: “I’d personally send every adult male Muslim that has come into the EU over the past 12 months back tomorrow if I could. Fake refugees.” 

I suspect your are being led down a route where someone wants to claim that anti-Islam rhetoric isn't racism, as Islam isn't a race.

We must also remember that Yaxley Lennon has also dabbled with The Great Replacement Theory, which many would consider to have anti-Semitic roots.
Tommy Robinson vs the media – and the ‘great replacement’ theory that links him to Christchurch   Searchlight

 

I'm no great fan of Streeting, but in this case he was on an APPG with Anna Soubry   Guardian
Yes, Islamophobia is a type of racism. Here’s why ; Wes Streeting

we argue that “Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”.

We’ve produce a series of examples, modelled on the IHRA definition of antisemitism, to help people understand how this manifests

 

One of the pieces of evidence  for discussion in such debates is downloadable from here; from my perspective, he makes a strong argument that Islamophobia should be considered in the same light as anti-Semitism.

Further written evidence from Professor Tariq Modood (HCL0057)
What is Islamophobia? Tariq Modood, MBE, FBA, FAcSS, FRSA Professor of Sociology, Politics and Public Policy,Director, University of Bristol Research Centre for the Study of Ethnicity and Citizenship
Conclusion: A Definition of Islamophobia
My suggested definition of Islamophobia, which may not capture everything meant by ‘Islamophobia’ but which captures the core features of the contemporary phenomena for Muslims in Britain:
Islamophobia is the racialising of Muslims based on physical appearance or descents members of a community and attributing to them cultural or religious characteristics to vilify, marginalise, discriminate or demand assimilation and thereby treat them as second class citizens.

 

So the next logical question might be, does Yaxley-Lennon promote anti Muslim hatred/discrimination?

If he does, then should he be regarded as racist on this alone, as well as promoting and attempting to stir up religious hatred.
Perhaps one for another post.

 

 

[The_DADDY]

43 minutes ago, Delayed said:

 

While addressing an EDL audience in 2011, Robinson stated that “every single Muslim” in the UK had “got away with” the 7/7 bombings, holding all Muslims responsible for the violent actions carried out by a group of individuals. He referred to the English city of Birmingham as the “terrorist epicenter of Britain.” 

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I'd call that ignorant but not racist.

[The_DADDY]

44 minutes ago, Delayed said:

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Robinson has called for a ban on “Muslim immigration,” and claimed migrants entering Europe are “harassing women, they’re raping women, they’re culturally and ideologically, not going to assimilate.” The Guardian reported that in January 2016, Robinson tweeted: “I’d personally send every adult male Muslim that has come into the EU over the past 12 months back tomorrow if I could. Fake refugees.” 

 

 

My bold.

He's not alone in thinking that. 

 

Underlined.

He's not alone in thinking that either.

Still, neither comment makes him racist. 

As those comments were made in 2011 and 2016 have you asked him if he still feels the same now? 

 

 

[Delayed]

4 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

I'd call that ignorant but not racist.

Maybe it's just me but publicly calling for the return of anyone entering the country that isn't white tends to come off a bit racist 

[The_DADDY]

Just now, Delayed said:

Maybe it's just me but publicly calling for the return of anyone entering the country that isn't white tends to come off a bit racist 

Id agree with that if colour was the motive but we know it isn't don't we.

Poor attempt at best. 

[Delayed]

2 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

 

As those comments were made in 2011 and 2016 have you asked him if he still feels the same now? 

 

 

No but I don't need to keep looking at the sun to know it's bright 

[The_DADDY]

Just now, Delayed said:

No but I don't need to keep looking at the sun to know it's bright 

Ah, well that settles it then 🙄

[Delayed]

Just now, The_DADDY said:

Id agree with that if colour was the motive but we know it isn't don't we.

Poor attempt at best. 

 

It's not an attempt. 

 

You don't need to be an expert in immigration to understand that anyone coming from the middle east and identifying themselves as Muslim is going to be non white.

 

 

[The_DADDY]

Just now, Delayed said:

 

It's not an attempt. 

 

You don't need to be an expert in immigration to understand that anyone coming from the middle east and identifying themselves as Muslim is going to be non white.

 

 

And?

Colour still might not have been the motive. It's more to do with ideology as far as I'm aware

 

Edited June 26 by The_DADDY