G.E Hustings in Sheffield?

[gamezone07]

As above, are there any happening?

 

I would like to ask about Gentrification which is happening exponentially, primarily in former working class area

with many renters evicted and pushed out to the peripheries.

 

local politicians seem sanguine about gentrification, many wlecoming it.

[HeHasRisen]

Surely this is only actually an issue in Sheffield Central

 

[Mkapaka]

36 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Surely this is only actually an issue in Sheffield Central

 

I wouldn’t say so 

[geared]

6 hours ago, Mkapaka said:

I wouldn’t say so 

 

Deepcar/Stocksbridge area has seen this effect after the large Samual Fox developemnt.

 

Take this house for example, over a ten year period it's value increased nearly 100%.

 

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/england-133466705-19285576?s=20d1b31840aaf4fbd0b5cff22f20666b4856477bc56db25d04ea7c35f37458e5#/

[ECCOnoob]

4 hours ago, geared said:

 

Deepcar/Stocksbridge area has seen this effect after the large Samual Fox developemnt.

 

Take this house for example, over a ten year period it's value increased nearly 100%.

 

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/england-133466705-19285576?s=20d1b31840aaf4fbd0b5cff22f20666b4856477bc56db25d04ea7c35f37458e5#/

 

But what about the fact that it has elevated the area.  About the fact that its created 100s of new jobs.   About the fact that its transformed and brought new life to what was an abandoned and decaying former steelworks.   Im sure most people wouldn't want that to have remained and just progressively decayed into an eyesore either. 

 

Yes of course that's had an impact on local property prices but that's took a decade to get there.   Do you know what has also dramatically incraesed over the past 10 years.  Wages.   Take national minimum wage for example.  In 2013 it was just over £6.  This year's latest increases have brought in over £11. 

 

Its all relative.  

[ECCOnoob]

On 03/06/2024 at 16:20, gamezone07 said:

As above, are there any happening?

 

I would like to ask about Gentrification which is happening exponentially, primarily in former working class area

with many renters evicted and pushed out to the peripheries.

 

local politicians seem sanguine about gentrification, many wlecoming it.

 

Good.  So they should be.  Areas should strive for improvement and change.  

 

I dont get the push back.   This obsession over the so called real working class to be me is a completely outdated concept.  For one thing most "working class" these days are far from it.  They are not going down't mines and coming home to their outside bog and tin baths.    Most are firmly wedged into middle class at least.  Budget Holidays abroad, a car, a small house, a selection of modern tech are all far more accessible and widely obtained for people on even modest level incomes.  

 

Also, its not simply about gentrification.   Areas have always changed, developed and evolved naturally.   Not so long ago places like Spital Hill and Burngreave were full of big houses occupied by professionals but now according to some on here they are virtually slums with house prices at pennies.   Ecclesall Road was at one point THE premium street with the finest of bars, the fanciest restaurants and most exclusive shops.   But now, its changed - less premium, more chains and fast food, different clientele and different attraction. 

 

On the other hand, places like Neepsend and Kelham Island used to be industrial wastelands -  a place for kerb crawling and dodgy dealing.  Now its transformed into entire new neighbourhoods, streets, facilities all representing millions of pounds of investment into the city.   Same with places like St Marys Gate, Hillsborough and even parts of supposedly notorious estates like Parson Cross and Manor - new generations of residents moving in, more private development, more investment all transforming IMO for the better. 

[gamezone07]

Unfortunately Local Housing Allowance hasn't, while social housing rents have gone through the roof, so many families, etc(most in work on UC) 

are just not able to live in Sheffield,  but where will they go, certainly singletons.,

 

I note on the Tribune comments people are very happy with it, but of course they are the beneficiaries.

i went to Uni with a number of them, Even SWP types were flipping houses during the 'Blair Boom'

Edited June 4 by gamezone07

[gamezone07]

10 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

 

 

 

On the other hand, places like Neepsend and Kelham Island used to be industrial wastelands -  a place for kerb crawling and dodgy dealing.  Now its transformed into entire new neighbourhoods, streets, facilities all representing millions of pounds of investment into the city.   Same with places like St Marys Gate, Hillsborough and even parts of supposedly notorious estates like Parson Cross and Manor - new generations of residents moving in, more private development, more investment all transforming IMO for the better. 

Be interesting to find out where the former tenants have gone, local politicians seem very coy on this.

[gamezone07]

Just now, gamezone07 said:

Be interesting to find out where the former tenants have gone, local politicians seem very coy on this.

"Ecclesall Road was at one point THE premium street with the finest of bars, the fanciest restaurants and most exclusive shops.   But now, its changed - less premium, more chains and fast food, different clientele and different attraction. "

 

Still very expensive to live round there

[Mkapaka]

3 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Areas should strive for improvement and change.  

Depends what your definition of improvement and change is though i suppose