Bellatrix Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Just now, hackey lad said: 😃 That's better. I think particularly delicious is the speculation that it's the result of a spectacular buggering up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 9 minutes ago, Bellatrix said: That's better. I think particularly delicious is the speculation that it's the result of a spectacular buggering up: Now that is funny 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m williamson Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 6 minutes ago, Bellatrix said: That's better. I think particularly delicious is the speculation that it's the result of a spectacular buggering up: Are you trying to say that the Tory Party has a problem with conducting matters in a competent manner? Well my gast has never been so flabbered!! I'm shocked I tell you, shocked! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Chaparral Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Annie Bynnol said: Cleverly manged to lose two votes and get knocked out. All the pundits were predicting Cleverly was certain to make the final two this morning. Tactical voting has clearly happened during the contest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Chaparral Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 56 minutes ago, crookesey said: In footballing terms this is like taking the England job following an 8-0 thrashing by New Zealand. Not really. It's not the same as in 1997 when Labour won by landslide under Tony Blair and William Hague took over the leadership of the Tory party. Tony Blair was popular for a number of years and won a large share of the vote in his first general election victory. Sir Keir Starmer has never been popular and won the lowest share of the vote for a political party to win a majority in parliament. The Tory party has a good chance of winning the next general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 31 minutes ago, High Chaparral said: Not really. It's not the same as in 1997 when Labour won by landslide under Tony Blair and William Hague took over the leadership of the Tory party. Tony Blair was popular for a number of years and won a large share of the vote in his first general election victory. Sir Keir Starmer has never been popular and won the lowest share of the vote for a political party to win a majority in parliament. The Tory party has a good chance of winning the next general election. Well that will be difficult, they only have 49 more seats than the Lib Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 31 minutes ago, High Chaparral said: Not really. It's not the same as in 1997 when Labour won by landslide under Tony Blair and William Hague took over the leadership of the Tory party. Tony Blair was popular for a number of years and won a large share of the vote in his first general election victory. Sir Keir Starmer has never been popular and won the lowest share of the vote for a political party to win a majority in parliament. The Tory party has a good chance of winning the next general election. With the ex-immigration minister called Jenrick as leader, that brought in 700,000 net immigrants into the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 2 minutes ago, El Cid said: With the ex-immigration minister called Jenrick as leader, that brought in 700,000 net immigrants into the country? Did he have any choice, no-one can stop them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Chaparral Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 31 minutes ago, crookesey said: Well that will be difficult, they only have 49 more seats than the Lib Dems. They gained double the vote share that the Lib Dems won. The recent general election was a freak result because the Labour party won many more seats than their vote share deserved because of Reform UK taking votes away from the Tory party. If Reform UK and the Tory party came to an arrangement then the Labour party would have no chance of winning a majority at the next general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak4 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 54 minutes ago, El Cid said: With the ex-immigration minister called Jenrick as leader, that brought in 700,000 net immigrants into the country? 51 minutes ago, cressida said: Did he have any choice, no-one can stop them. Surely the 700 K is total net, which sometimes excludes asylum seekers until they are granted refugee status, depending on where you source the numbers; I think that was about 40 k last year. The 700 K net total is either UK citizens returning, or work/study/family etc. who have been granted visas (about 1.16 million), balanced against those who have left the UK. It's HMG's choice how many visas they issue, and thus the number of immigrants arriving. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2024/summary-of-latest-statistics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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