hackey lad Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 17 minutes ago, Mister M said: Now why would you put that on this thread if not as a lame attempt at deflection? Anyway back to the topic in hand.... Christopher Hope of The Telegraph and GB News is just reporting that: So roughly a third of the Parliamentary Conservative Party aren't going to have confidence in their leader, whichever it is? Well that gives us all confidence when they ask us for their vote come the election. Well as the King of deflection you were bound to notice it . By the way , it wasn’t deflection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 10 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Well as the King of deflection you were bound to notice it . By the way , it wasn’t deflection So what do you think of the fact that 30% of the Parliamentary Conservative Party aren't approving of their leader, even before they've been elected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Just now, Mister M said: So what do you think of the fact that 30% of the Parliamentary Conservative Party aren't approving of their leader, even before they've been elected? I’m shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 5 minutes ago, hackey lad said: I’m shocked. Yes, me too. Given recent history, I thought the percentage of Tory MPs disapproving of their leader would be much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Chaparral Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, melthebell said: surprisingly youve missed the point massively, theres already a party to the right banging on about immigration, whats the point in copying them? do you really think bland copies of Farage are going to beat Farage at his own game? whereas as well as losing voters to Reform, theyve also lost voters to Lib dems and Labour (more to the centre). My point is, have they made the right choice going after reform voters? The Tory party need to win back the support of those who voted Reform UK in order to win a majority at the next general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPP Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 hours ago, geared said: According to this document from Parliament, the leader of the party must be a sitting MP. That doesn't mean Boris can't make a comeback, but he can't do so without winning a by-election first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Douglas-Home Sir Alexander Frederick Douglas-Home was a British statesman and Conservative politician who was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1963 to 1964. He was the last prime minister to hold office while being a member of the House of Lords, before renouncing his peerage and taking up a seat in the House of Commons for the remainder of his premiership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Chaparral Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 36 minutes ago, Mister M said: So what do you think of the fact that 30% of the Parliamentary Conservative Party aren't approving of their leader, even before they've been elected? Nonsense. The Conservative MPs will support whoever is elected leader and give them a fair chance to win back support from the electorate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 9 minutes ago, High Chaparral said: The Tory party need to win back the support of those who voted Reform UK in order to win a majority at the next general election. The sensible Tories aren’t having it Westy! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/10/centrist-conservatives-refuse-back-badenoch-jenrick-tory-reform-group-leadership-candidates-party-right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 minutes ago, High Chaparral said: Nonsense. The Conservative MPs will support whoever is elected leader and give them a fair chance to win back support from the electorate. That's the thing - we never get to find out from so called 'mainstream' or 'centrist' Tory MPs. Over the last, well ever since I can remember, it's been the rightwingers who are the gob****es - the Mark Francoises, the John Redwoods, the Terry Dicks, Keith Josephs - who bellyache and whine loudly. People just expect, like a battered wife, the moderates to put up with boorish and the freakish. Why can't those who want to be like Fartrage join his party, and leave a moderate centre right party for those who want that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Chaparral Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 15 hours ago, Mister Gee said: The sensible Tories aren’t having it Westy! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/10/centrist-conservatives-refuse-back-badenoch-jenrick-tory-reform-group-leadership-candidates-party-right It's High Chaparral here Those Tories are throwing their toys out of their prams because their choice never made the final two. They remind me of the Remainer cry babies (see Brexit thread) While James Cleverly was celebrating winning the ballot on Tuesday Robert Jenrick and Kemi Bedenoch were talking to fellow Tory MPs to win their support. Tactical voting may have happened but if James Cleverly hadn't behaved like Neil Kinnock (1992) then he would have won the handful of Tom Tugendhat supporter needed to make the final two. It was better to find out sooner rather than later that James Cleverly is not fit to lead the Tory part. James Cleverly got what he deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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