Rwanda scheme to be scrapped straight away, what now for UK

[HairFarceOne]

Bit of a radical thought, but bear with....

Seeing as though 75-80% of asylum claims are upheld, why not open a claims centre in France, say Calais.

Staff the centre so that all applications  can be resolved within an agreed timescale, say 28 days.

If successful, arrange transport to the UK.

If unsuccessful, allow 1 appeal after say 6 months. If this appeal is successful, transport is arranged.

If it is unsuccessful tell the applicants why and state that they will not be allowed to enter the UK.

As fingerprints will be taken at the application stage, if anyone then comes over by any non-official means they are returned to France.

This way, the UK don't have to house them whilst applications are being processed.

 

(I realise this is what used to happen prior to the Conservatives and Brexit, but now we have adults in charge, it must be time to revisit the idea).

 

[peak4]

16 minutes ago, despritdan said:

Why don't we just pay the French to put them all up in hotels over there? It might work out cheaper.

Macron had previously offered to set up UK asylum application centres in France, which was turned down by the previous government.

On Channel crossings, France is sick of UK ‘outsourcing’ problems Guardian

Analysis: there’s fury at Johnson tweeting out a letter to Macron – and some of the PM’s suggested five steps are inflammatory

 France has proposed setting up joint processing centres on French soil, where applications for asylum in Britain could be examined by British immigration officers.

[altus]

25 minutes ago, peak4 said:

Macron had previously offered to set up UK asylum application centres in France, which was turned down by the previous government.

On Channel crossings, France is sick of UK ‘outsourcing’ problems Guardian

Analysis: there’s fury at Johnson tweeting out a letter to Macron – and some of the PM’s suggested five steps are inflammatory

 France has proposed setting up joint processing centres on French soil, where applications for asylum in Britain could be examined by British immigration officers.

 

The Tories never wanted to solve the illegal migrant problem. Having trashed their reputations for everything else positive, talking tough about combatting it was the only thing they had left to appeal to the electorate.

[Top4719]

20 hours ago, altus said:

 

The Tories never wanted to solve the illegal migrant problem. Having trashed their reputations for everything else positive, talking tough about combatting it was the only thing they had left to appeal to the electorate.

 

Do we know that anyone want's to stop them?

[alchresearch]

On 08/07/2024 at 11:08, Wing Commander said:

I bet Rwanda has been approached by a number of EU countries to enquire about replacing the UK in the agreement.  Starmer should try to offload the agreement to another country and get some money back.

 

The EU, 2019: 

Europe Keeps Asylum Seekers at a Distance, This Time in Rwanda

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/08/world/europe/migrants-africa-rwanda.html#:~:text=BRUSSELS — For three years%2C the,refugees from crossing to Greece.

 

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BRUSSELS — For three years, the European Union has been paying other countries to keep asylum seekers away from a Europe replete with populist and anti-migrant parties.

 

It has paid Turkey billions to keep refugees from crossing to Greece. It has funded the Libyan Coast Guard to catch and return migrant boats to North Africa. It has set up centers in distant Niger to process asylum seekers, if they ever make it that far. Most don’t.

 

Even as that arm’s-length network comes under criticism on humanitarian grounds, it is so overwhelmed that the European Union is seeking to expand it, as the bloc aims to buttress an approach that has drastically cut the number of migrants crossing the Mediterranean.

 

It is now preparing to finish a deal, this time in Rwanda, to create yet another node that it hopes will help alleviate some of the mounting strains on its outsourcing network.

 

Funny how the people who said that the UK's Rwanda scheme was inhumane never bothered or cared about this.  Its only nasty when the Tories do it, apparently.

[peak4]

19 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

Funny how the people who said that the UK's Rwanda scheme was inhumane never bothered or cared about this.  Its only nasty when the Tories do it, apparently.

Did you read the article?
As far as I can make out, it's about using remote processing centres, to help prevent asylum seekers having to undertake dangerous journeys, not about deporting them there, when they have already risked their lives to make claims in the UK.
Yes critical of the conditions in those centres, and the lack of opportunities to re-settle, but that could and should be improved.
Seems similar to what Macron proposed to try and combat channel crossings.

 

The article avoiding a paywall Europe Keeps Asylum Seekers at a Distance, This Time in Rwanda NTY  via archive.ph

Screening asylum seekers in safe, remote locations — where they can qualify as refugees without undertaking perilous journeys to Europe — has long been promoted in Brussels as a way to dismantle smuggler networks while giving vulnerable people a fair chance at a new life. But the application by the European Union has highlighted its fundamental flaws: The offshore centers are too small and the pledges of refugee resettlement too few.

[cressida]

Send rhem to the moon - in a decade or two it could be viable

[Mister Gee]

Just now, cressida said:

Send rhem to the moon - in a decade or two it could be viable

Be careful, you’ll have Al Bundy along in a bit saying you’re intoxicated!

[cressida]

10 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

Be careful, you’ll have Al Bundy along in a bit saying you’re intoxicated!

I wouldn't mind but like you I respect that you both have partners so steer clear😊

[Al Bundy]

12 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

Be careful, you’ll have Al Bundy along in a bit saying you’re intoxicated!

No chance, Cressida doesn't have that nasty bullying streak that you have. Her spelling errors will be more human error rather than due to being intoxicated.