Battle Of Orgreave Enquiry

[RollingJ]

Just now, Anna B said:

No, but I would like honesty and fairness, and a sustainable long term plan.

 

The hundreds of thousands of  unemployed, thanks to Maggie's drive to close down industry, were simply hung out to dry. The North has never really recovered and is now considerably poorer than the south.   

Oh dear, that old line again. Have you checked the unemployment figures recently? The world changes - technology /working practices/regulations change, and most people adapt.

[ECCOnoob]

10 minutes ago, Anna B said:

No, but I would like honesty and fairness, and a sustainable long term plan.

 

The hundreds of thousands of  unemployed, thanks to Maggie's drive to close down industry, were simply hung out to dry. The North has never really recovered and is now considerably poorer than the south.   

 

Oh get over yourself.   Firstly that has sod all to do with the topic under discussion. 

 

Secondly, 'the north' has recovered as much as anywhere else in the country. Not all streets down south are paved with gold. In fact even in London, there are still poorer and richer areas. 

 

We have had vast investment, regeneration and developments over the years. The 'industry' changed, new businesses were developed, new types of trade and skills and ambition all there ready for taking.  You make it out like ex mining villages are desolate wastelands. Complete nonsense, there's new housing, new businesses, new retail, new colleges, new industrial units, new technology, new jobs, entire new communities....  

 

Plenty of people who lost their employment in the former nationalised industries managed to get off their behinds, reskill, retrain and find other work.  Now we are approaching two generations down the line and there is a wealth of opportunities, working life and higher education offered which predecessors could have only dreamt of.  

 

If those people have failed to take them, 

insisting on wallowing in the past expecting the world stand still just for them, that's their own problem. 

 

 

[Resident]

6 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Plenty of people who lost their employment in the former nationalised industries managed to get off their behinds, reskill, retrain and find other work.  Now we are approaching two generations down the line and there is a wealth of opportunities, working life and higher education offered which predecessors could have only dreamt of.  

My dad was one of them until his accident on the job. He retrained and got a job as a building site inspector with RMBC until his accident whilst inspecting Swallownest Court. A 'bridge' over a 30ft, concrete lined hole, previously signed off by a colleague, collasped and landed on a scaffold knuckle at the base of his spine. He survived but walking more than 20yrd was painful. 

[Anna B]

On 16/07/2024 at 00:19, Resident said:

My dad was one of them until his accident on the job. He retrained and got a job as a building site inspector with RMBC until his accident whilst inspecting Swallownest Court. A 'bridge' over a 30ft, concrete lined hole, previously signed off by a colleague, collasped and landed on a scaffold knuckle at the base of his spine. He survived but walking more than 20yrd was painful. 

Sorry to hear that. What an awful thing to happen.

 

A lot of the jobs offered were lower pay and unskilled so it's not surprising that some miners used to much higher wages turned tham down, holding out for something better. Long term unemployment rocketed and IMO it was the start of the 'underclass' containing a lot of angry, mainly older, bitter people, (I knew a few) who had spent their entire working life in the coal and steel industries, working their way to highly skilled positions, skills that unfortunately were not transferable. They were not all offered training courses and balked at the idea of manning a till in a supermarket.