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Ukraine's Zelenskiy attends UK cabinet, renews calls on long-range missiles


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38 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

Zelensky is a maggot. I can't stand the man. He's filled his pockets to the tune of billions whilst his countrymen are slaughtered then begs us to let him strike Russia thus leading to a wider war?!!!

He's insane and needs removing so peace talks can start. 

Vile creature. 

You think Putin wants peace talks. He's not going to stop.

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Just now, Zinger549 said:

You think Putin wants peace talks. He's not going to stop.

Typical parroting of MSM talking points. 

Putin HAS had peace talks with Ukraine. 

An agreement WAS made.

Boris Johnson scuppered this agreement  

War continues. 

None of the above is a secret anymore. If you choose not to look and find it then more fool you. 

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3 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

Typical parroting of MSM talking points. 

Putin HAS had peace talks with Ukraine. 

An agreement WAS made.

Boris Johnson scuppered this agreement  

War continues. 

None of the above is a secret anymore. If you choose not to look and find it then more fool you. 

7 minutes ago, Zinger549 said:

You think Putin wants peace talks. He's not going to stop.

NATO had a hand in it - stopped the talks,  don't forget Putin created a 'corridor' for the Ukrainians to get to safety.

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1 hour ago, cressida said:

NATO had a hand in it - stopped the talks,  don't forget Putin created a 'corridor' for the Ukrainians to get to safety.

100% agree with you cressida. 

And have you noticed? If we were making posts like this when Ukraine was 'the current thing' not many years ago we'd have been jumped on and called Pootin apologists. 

The pro Ukraine rabble are rather quiet, aren't they. 

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4 hours ago, Zinger549 said:

You think Putin wants peace talks. He's not going to stop.

 

He could have carpet bombed Ukraine into the stone age if that was his goal. Especially when the U.S. announced to the world they would not go to war with Russia, over Ukraine.

 

(The said the same thing about not going to war against Iran)

 

He has not invaded a NATO country.

 

Obama invited him in to the Crimea.

 

Biden invited him into the Donetsk (A "minor incursion")

 

Putin has already got what he wants! He has prevented the Ukraine from joining NATO in their relentless push Eastward and potentially planting anti- Russian nukes in that territory,  and retained Russia's traditional strategic access to the Black Sea, and the Mediterranean.

 

The West has given Putin excuses to do what he's doing, from threatened Regime Change in Russia, and using Neo-Nazi fighters against the pro Russian territories of the Donetsk region, to challenging the West inspired illegal overthrow of the original duly elected pro-Russian government.

 

On top of that Putin is financing his war against the Ukraine, with the $billions of dollars Europe is sending to Russia directly and indirectly to buy their Oil and Gas. Who can explain THAT madness?

 

It's pure Western incompetence and weakness that Putin is successfully exploiting, and the reason why he is getting support From China, and from countries like South Africa, and Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and other failed "Regime Change" victims. Once staunch and prosperous  Western Allies, now supporting Putin.

 

This is why, any smart, unemotional objective assessment of the strategy employed makes Putin's actions in Ukraine look savvy and genius, words that Trump has used to describe the enemy, not the man!

 

The Putin and Iran are playing the incompetent West, like a fiddle.

 

And the West is fiddling, while the Ukraine burns!

 

 

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6 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

Typical parroting of MSM talking points. 

Putin HAS had peace talks with Ukraine. 

An agreement WAS made.

Boris Johnson scuppered this agreement  

War continues. 

None of the above is a secret anymore. If you choose not to look and find it then more fool you. 

I have looked, at various sources. Lots of respected people say the same.

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He shouldn't have been invited to attend a UK government cabinet meeting.  Germany is going to halve military aid for Ukraine.  When Trump becomes US president Ukraine will lose their biggest source of military aid funding. 

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