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Demonstrations, Riots and Disorder Across the UK Following the Southport Attacks


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23 minutes ago, geared said:

 

From the disorder in Hull, couple of days later.

 

He looted Lush and Greggs, now he's in prison.

I was refering to those women, are they looters?

What is a 'gingerbread man'?

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2 minutes ago, cressida said:

I was refering to those women, are they looters?

What is a 'gingerbread man'?

It looks like he has his hands full of ginger men biscuits looted from Gregs...apparently!

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3 minutes ago, cuttsie said:

Genuine refugees are welcome as far as I am concerned ,  

The situation with the boats usually full of young men is another thing .

This is the thing the nutters see on TV , 

It leads to resentment among certain sections who consider them selves left behind and more importantly ignored day the Government.

So stop the boats is the solution, we have a Navy , turn them back to France a Country where they are already safe ,   No hotels , houses, or any other accommodation needed , no Dr surgery’s swamped by even more people, in other words stop the boats problem solved. 

It might be what some people think from TV reports, and even more so if they shun conventional news reports (MSM) and get their information from far right Youtubers.

Before the previous government claimed that not processing asylum claims was deterrent, about 80% of those arriving on small boats cross channel had their claims accepted as valid; lightly lower on first application, but higher after appeal.
This was a higher % than most other forms of entry.

People crossing the English Channel in small boats  University of Oxford

93% of small boat arrivals from 2018 to March 2024 claimed asylum; of those who had received an initial decision by 31 March 2024, around three quarters were successful

 

See also

Understanding Channel crossings  Refugee Council

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2 hours ago, cressida said:

Listening to Sky News earlier one protestor said it was the illegal immigrants he wanted out not the legal ones - so if we sent the illegals back to France

what would be the outcome?

Unfortunately, that protestor, and several on this forum, have decided to use the term "illegal immigrants" rather than asylum seekers etc.
It's also put about by some of our own politicians, and intended to to be pejorative language in order to inflame an already tense situation.
In reality the number  of migrants here on visas for work purposes hugely outnumber those crossing on small boats; under the last government, this has increased hugely.

How can we send people "back to France" if France won't accept them?
Macron has already offered to have UK asylum application centres on French soil, but was turned down by our previous government.
Yes there is a mature discussion needed to address asylum applications without doubt, but our politicians and activists demonising the most vulnerable isn't the best place to begin; it ends up with the riots we're seeing at the moment.

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8 minutes ago, peak4 said:

Unfortunately, that protestor, and several on this forum, have decided to use the term "illegal immigrants" rather than asylum seekers etc.
It's also put about by some of our own politicians, and intended to to be pejorative language in order to inflame an already tense situation.
In reality the number  of migrants here on visas for work purposes hugely outnumber those crossing on small boats; under the last government, this has increased hugely.

How can we send people "back to France" if France won't accept them?
Macron has already offered to have UK asylum application centres on French soil, but was turned down by our previous government.
Yes there is a mature discussion needed to address asylum applications without doubt, but our politicians and activists demonising the most vulnerable isn't the best place to begin; it ends up with the riots we're seeing at the moment.

Are those usually young men vulnerable while living in France.??????

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36 minutes ago, cressida said:

I was refering to those women, are they looters?

What is a 'gingerbread man'?

 

Supposedly yes, they were part of a group looting a shoe store.  Then stood around showing off their goods.

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