Slighty batty Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 North Yorkshire council told off for putting their apostrophe in the wrong place. Where would you put it? Should it be in t´bin or is it in´t bin? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/02/yorkshire-apostrophe-row-raises-bigger-question-do-we-even-need-them I have my own pet theory on this, but what are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saywhatnow Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Neither IMO. It's 'In to bin', we miss 'the' out and just pronounce to and too differently. But I accept that t' has become the standard written interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Put it in the bin -> Put it in t'bin. Pronounced put it int bin. The h and e of 'the' are removed, so in goes the apostrophe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkieontheTyne Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 16 minutes ago, Bellatrix said: Put it in the bin -> Put it in t'bin. Pronounced put it int bin. The h and e of 'the' are removed, so in goes the apostrophe. In t’bin. Int it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gormenghast Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 IT'S NOT A LETTER T AT ALL AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN APOSTROPHE. What actually makes the sound is known as a glottal stop, a release of air when the glottis has been completely closed. (Look it up) So it should be written " in bin" THERE IS NO LETTER T. The t is what southerners have interpreted it as, because they can't speak proper like what we can in Yorkshire. You can also hear it in some pronunciations of water and butter, i.e wa er and bu er. So, gerrit reight an talk bloody proper. 😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hardie Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 13 minutes ago, Gormenghast said: IT'S NOT A LETTER T AT ALL AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN APOSTROPHE. What actually makes the sound is known as a glottal stop, a release of air when the glottis has been completely closed. (Look it up) So it should be written " in bin" THERE IS NO LETTER T. The t is what southerners have interpreted it as, because they can't speak proper like what we can in Yorkshire. You can also hear it in some pronunciations of water and butter, i.e wa er and bu er. So, gerrit reight an talk bloody proper. 😉 Where’s the indication of a glottal stop if it’s written “in bin”? There isn’t any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I remember listening to a radio play of one of the Poirot short stories. They obviously had a southerner playing the role of a Yorkshire cook. The script included lines that should have sounded like this: 'Something must've gone wrong wit order' (Something must have gone wrong with the order) and 'Everyone int house'. (Everyone in the house). Which would have translated to the script page as 'something must've gone wrong wit' t'order', and 'Everyone in t'house'. Unfortunately, she said the lines as 'Something must've gone wrong wit torder' and 'Everyone int touse'. Not a bad crack at the accent though, apart from that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saywhatnow Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 53 minutes ago, Bellatrix said: Put it in the bin -> Put it in t'bin. Pronounced put it int bin. The h and e of 'the' are removed, so in goes the apostrophe. Ah, Good point. I've always interpreted as 'in to bin' rather than 'int bin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkieontheTyne Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 32 minutes ago, Gormenghast said: IT'S NOT A LETTER T AT ALL AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN APOSTROPHE. What actually makes the sound is known as a glottal stop, a release of air when the glottis has been completely closed. (Look it up) So it should be written " in bin" THERE IS NO LETTER T. The t is what southerners have interpreted it as, because they can't speak proper like what we can in Yorkshire. You can also hear it in some pronunciations of water and butter, i.e wa er and bu er. So, gerrit reight an talk bloody proper. 😉 Waddle. With a T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gormenghast Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, YorkieontheTyne said: Waddle. With a T. Waddle refers to a mode of locomotion, not language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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