In t´bin or in´t bin?

[Slighty batty]

North Yorkshire council told off for putting their apostrophe in the wrong place. 

Where would you put it? Should it be in t´bin or is it in´t bin?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/02/yorkshire-apostrophe-row-raises-bigger-question-do-we-even-need-them

 

I have my own pet theory on this, but what are your thoughts?

[saywhatnow]

Neither IMO. It's 'In to bin', we miss 'the' out and just pronounce to and too differently. 

 

But I accept that t' has become the standard written interpretation

[Bellatrix]

Put it in the bin -> Put it in t'bin.  Pronounced put it int bin.

 

The h and e of 'the' are removed, so in goes the apostrophe.

[YorkieontheTyne]

16 minutes ago, Bellatrix said:

Put it in the bin -> Put it in t'bin.  Pronounced put it int bin.

 

The h and e of 'the' are removed, so in goes the apostrophe.

In t’bin. Int it.

[Gormenghast]

IT'S NOT A LETTER T AT ALL AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN APOSTROPHE.

 

What actually makes the sound is known as a glottal stop, a release of air when the glottis has been completely closed. (Look it up)

 

So it should be written " in bin"

 

THERE IS NO LETTER T. 

 

The  t is what southerners have interpreted it as, because they can't speak proper like what we can in Yorkshire.

 

You can also hear it in some pronunciations of water and butter, i.e wa er and bu er.

 

So, gerrit reight an talk bloody proper. 😉

[Jim Hardie]

13 minutes ago, Gormenghast said:

IT'S NOT A LETTER T AT ALL AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN APOSTROPHE.

 

What actually makes the sound is known as a glottal stop, a release of air when the glottis has been completely closed. (Look it up)

 

So it should be written " in bin"

 

THERE IS NO LETTER T. 

 

The  t is what southerners have interpreted it as, because they can't speak proper like what we can in Yorkshire.

 

You can also hear it in some pronunciations of water and butter, i.e wa er and bu er.

 

So, gerrit reight an talk bloody proper. 😉

Where’s the indication of a glottal stop if it’s written “in bin”?
There isn’t any.

[Bellatrix]

I remember listening to a radio play of one of the Poirot short stories.  They obviously had a southerner playing the role of a Yorkshire cook.  The script included lines that should have sounded like this:

 

'Something must've gone wrong wit order' (Something must have gone wrong with the order) and 'Everyone int house'. (Everyone in the house).

 

Which would have translated to the script page as 'something must've gone wrong wit' t'order', and 'Everyone in t'house'.

 

Unfortunately, she said the lines as 'Something must've gone wrong wit torder' and 'Everyone int touse'. 

 

Not a bad crack at the accent though, apart from that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[saywhatnow]

53 minutes ago, Bellatrix said:

Put it in the bin -> Put it in t'bin.  Pronounced put it int bin.

 

The h and e of 'the' are removed, so in goes the apostrophe.

Ah, Good point. I've always interpreted as 'in to bin' rather than 'int bin'

[YorkieontheTyne]

32 minutes ago, Gormenghast said:

IT'S NOT A LETTER T AT ALL AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN APOSTROPHE.

 

What actually makes the sound is known as a glottal stop, a release of air when the glottis has been completely closed. (Look it up)

 

So it should be written " in bin"

 

THERE IS NO LETTER T. 

 

The  t is what southerners have interpreted it as, because they can't speak proper like what we can in Yorkshire.

 

You can also hear it in some pronunciations of water and butter, i.e wa er and bu er.

 

So, gerrit reight an talk bloody proper. 😉

Waddle. With a T.

[Gormenghast]

4 minutes ago, YorkieontheTyne said:

Waddle. With a T.

Waddle refers to a mode of locomotion, not language.