NHS versus Private Health Care

[lavery549@yahoo]

So am back to Sheffield on Monday , back to my second house , Ingram road , to sort things & go visit Mum 

[Padders]

12 hours ago, lavery549@yahoo said:

She says I am bossy though 🤣

Not you an all.

I've two bossy daughters, and it's a nightmare...

[cressida]

12 hours ago, lavery549@yahoo said:

So am back to Sheffield on Monday , back to my second house , Ingram road , to sort things & go visit Mum 

Don't forget flowers😉

[cressida]

14 hours ago, lavery549@yahoo said:

As a newly retired Staff Nurse , & caring for my Mum , I am now seeing things from another perspective & it's scary . 

Scary?   

I have no problem with the NHS as long as they are professional as most are,  there were two bad nurses - now in jail - who were throwing stones at 

a bedridden female patient,  her sons installed a tiny camera and videoed it - well done I say.  We don't go in hospital to be harassed.

[spilldig]

13 hours ago, lavery549@yahoo said:

Well after 2 failed discharges , my mum is back in hospital .  We have now decided she is coming downstairs . This is the last resort . But they have to give us time to actually put things properly in motion . Like , alarms on the bed , sonars in the house .  If this fails , then Mum is coming to Bradford to live with me , where I can totally protect her , care for her , because ,it's the only option . We will not have her in a Nursing Home , we don't trust them after what happened to our Dad . 

I am just wondering what happened to your dad because I am fully with you on not trusting nursing homes?

[lavery549@yahoo]

43 minutes ago, spilldig said:

I am just wondering what happened to your dad because I am fully with you on not trusting nursing homes?

spilldig , Mum decided to place Dad in Respite , because she realised she was exhausted . He went to this particular home ( it's since been closed ) , it was supposed to be dementia friendly , but we fast realised it was far from it . Dad always was affectionate & liked giving hugs , but some of the staff complained he was being offensive . Mum & me were in the office having a meeting , when something made me look round & there was Dad wandering up & down . It was like the Railway Children , I just shouted Daddy !!!! . And caught up with him . I just burst into tears . We found out ,only when he went into hospital , that he had been laid all night on the bathroom floor , they never let us know . One of our friends runs Darnell Dementia group ,( Dad went there ) , & she went to visit Dad , & they complained that Dad was too " touchy feely " . Our friend went ballistic & said ,he is not like that , he is just being affectionate . Mum blamed herself for Dad's deterioration ,by putting him there in the first place . But , something good came out of it , because Dad went into Brearly Unit at Northern ( can't remember which ward ) , but those Staff were absolutely fantastic . It made us feel so much better 

[lavery549@yahoo]

1 hour ago, Padders said:

Not you an all.

I've two bossy daughters, and it's a nightmare...

Oh yes , Mum calls me Mum 

[lavery549@yahoo]

1 hour ago, cressida said:

Scary?   

I have no problem with the NHS as long as they are professional as most are,  there were two bad nurses - now in jail - who were throwing stones at 

a bedridden female patient,  her sons installed a tiny camera and videoed it - well done I say.  We don't go in hospital to be harassed.

That is disgusting cressida , I am not surprised they are in jail 

[Annie Bynnol]

  As the thread has moved into the provision of care, I would point out there is no choice between NHS and Private  care in  Sheffield. All long term elderly care is provided by the 30+ private sector homes, apart from three specialist units part funded by the NHS, these places only deal with referred NHS patients. In the private homes a minority might get some NHS and/or Social services funding, otherwise it comes out  of their income, assets and savings. There is no 'cap' on the maximum.

  There are no clear divisions between types of care home and placement is down to the individual, relative, carer or social services.

  All care/nursing homes need a funding arrangement in place before accepting an individual. This agreement is between  the individual, relative or carer and the home. Some individuals, relative, carer may apply for a part funded care package through social services/NHS - very difficult to get as the individual must have at least two significant needs e.g. dementia on its own does not qualify.

    

[spilldig]

18 hours ago, lavery549@yahoo said:

spilldig , Mum decided to place Dad in Respite , because she realised she was exhausted . He went to this particular home ( it's since been closed ) , it was supposed to be dementia friendly , but we fast realised it was far from it . Dad always was affectionate & liked giving hugs , but some of the staff complained he was being offensive . Mum & me were in the office having a meeting , when something made me look round & there was Dad wandering up & down . It was like the Railway Children , I just shouted Daddy !!!! . And caught up with him . I just burst into tears . We found out ,only when he went into hospital , that he had been laid all night on the bathroom floor , they never let us know . One of our friends runs Darnell Dementia group ,( Dad went there ) , & she went to visit Dad , & they complained that Dad was too " touchy feely " . Our friend went ballistic & said ,he is not like that , he is just being affectionate . Mum blamed herself for Dad's deterioration ,by putting him there in the first place . But , something good came out of it , because Dad went into Brearly Unit at Northern ( can't remember which ward ) , but those Staff were absolutely fantastic . It made us feel so much better 

Very pleased there was at least a good outcome in the end lavery.