One in four children starting school still in nappies

[Draggletail]

6 minutes ago, Mister M said:

I'm reading the report in the Guardian, and it's not just the toilet many can't use books, don't know how to dress themselves and 29 per cent can't eat or drink independently. 1 in 5 parents think children do not need to be toilet trained before starting reception.

I think parents should be given a pack when their offspring is born telling them what they need to do and by when😒

This information/ these skills are usually passed on by parents and grandparents. Something has gone wrong in some cases it would seem.

[lavery549@yahoo]

24 minutes ago, Draggletail said:

This information/ these skills are usually passed on by parents and grandparents. Something has gone wrong in some cases it would seem.

Yea , big style 

[Tipstaff]

Although I thought 25% a little high, I'm not entirely surprised.  Some so-called 'parents' think it's someone else's responsibility to educate their children, to keep them clean, healthy and safe and to pay for their upkeep.   I suspect these will be the majority of the 25% 

There will of course be those children who have responsible parents and a genuine medical need. 

[Al Bundy]

10 hours ago, Mister M said:

I'm sure that's the case, and it's very sloppy parenting. It's also not fair on teaching staff who are employed to teach the curriculum, not clean the mucky bums of parents who are too busy / idle to do the basics. 

I would support schools telling parents if their offspring are not school ready, then they won't be enrolled.

I totally agree, however one would hazard a guess that the type of parents in bold wouldn't give a damn anyway.

[Jim Hardie]

Ban disposable nappies.
They’d all be toilet trained at 18 months.

[Mister M]

9 hours ago, Al Bundy said:

I totally agree, however one would hazard a guess that the type of parents in bold wouldn't give a damn anyway.

From what I've read of the issue, it isn't just scutters who can't be bothered to toilet train their children

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3805552/As-growing-army-middle-class-parents-let-children-wear-nappies-ready-stop-experts-warn-JUST-POTTY.html

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/24755499/primary-school-teacher-furious-change-nappy/

 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/family-kids/teacher-potty-train-children-expect-8917823

[Baron99]

22 hours ago, Slighty batty said:

According to this article 25% of kids starting school still aren’t potty trained.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3dykw576yo

 

Here in the Netherlands, before children can start at primary school they need to have a declaration from their nursery stating that they have achieved certain things - can use a pencil, can get dressed by themselves and do up their own shoes etc, and that they are fully potty trained. No child starts school here still in nappies ( unless they have a physical medical condition.) Day care here is so expensive that nobody wants their kid to be kept back in nursery. The requirement for the child to be potty trained really concentrates the parents minds and they make sure the children are out of nappies. Why don’t British schools do the same? 

It's not a new phenomenon.  The same headline gets trotted out each new school year. 

https://eric.org.uk/news/rise-in-children-starting-school-in-nappies/

 

Above from 2016 but I'm sure I read about it a good 5 years earlier. 

 

Simply bad parenting.  They should be ashamed & they want shaming but sadly you can't do that these days. 

[pfifes]

5 hours ago, Jim Hardie said:

Ban disposable nappies.
They’d all be toilet trained at 18 months.

Good point!!  They are terrible for the environment too. 

[Delbow]

On 17/08/2024 at 19:22, Mister M said:

 

I think parents should be given a pack when their offspring is born telling them what they need to do and by when😒

 

Sure Start was about teaching some basics to parents, now that their parents don't seem to do that anymore for whatever reason. Got rid of that though didn't we.

[hackey lad]

3 minutes ago, Delbow said:

 

Sure Start was about teaching some basics to parents, now that their parents don't seem to do that anymore for whatever reason. Got rid of that though didn't we.

When did Sure Start come in ?